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Help with deficiencies please

Hi, I've got a deficiency and I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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Bears work EA60 6hrs total 3 hr intervals
Tank parameters: ammonia 0ppm
Nitrites 0ppm
Nitrays 20-30ppm
Stocking: 11 neon tetras
5 cherry shrimp
I dose: Nilocg thrive twice a week 2 pumps
Excel half a cap twice a week
Here are some pics, oh ya I also have a snail I just found that I need identified please. Thanks in advance
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The snail is a ramshorn.

Is the spiraled plant a Val or a Sword? Val's are notoriously sensitive to Excel, FYI. If it's a sword, disregard.
I'm not seeing anything screaming out "deficiency". Why are you thinking deficiency? I see perhaps a touch of yellowing, but nothing too bad.

How long has tank been up and running? Any injected CO2? Do you know your dGH and dKH?
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The only idea I can think of is that you have a large tank with a small bioload. So any fertilizer would probably help. You're probably fine with what you're already dosing.
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The snail is a ramshorn.

Is the spiraled plant a Val or a Sword? Val's are notoriously sensitive to Excel, FYI. If it's a sword, disregard.
I'm not seeing anything screaming out "deficiency". Why are you thinking deficiency? I see perhaps a touch of yellowing, but nothing too bad.

How long has tank been up and running? Any injected CO2? Do you know your dGH and dKH?
They are val, theY are fairly translucent looking (the pics you can't tell) also the yellowing. I am not injecting anything. I do not know my hardness at all. Is the ramshorn something that will get out of control that I need to deal with in some way?

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Is the ramshorn something that will get out of control that I need to deal with in some way?
Yes, very much so. Unless you like seeing dozens all over everything.

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Yes, very much so. Unless you like seeing dozens all over everything.
Will ramshorn snails eat plants? or just algae?
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If you're seeing multiple in your tank, you can get some assassin snails to deal with them. Assassins don't mess with plants at all to my knowledge.

Again, Vals are sensitive to Excel, specifically glut, the active ingredient. If they're looking translucent, they could be starting to melt in response to the Excel. I think vals will adapt over time to Excel, but early melt off is expected. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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If you're seeing multiple in your tank, you can get some assassin snails to deal with them. Assassins don't mess with plants at all to my knowledge.

Again, Vals are sensitive to Excel, specifically glut, the active ingredient. If they're looking translucent, they could be starting to melt in response to the Excel. I think vals will adapt over time to Excel, but early melt off is expected. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I was thinking about assassin snails but read that they will also eat my cherry shrimp which I don't want

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Again, Vals are sensitive to Excel, specifically glut, the active ingredient. If they're looking translucent, they could be starting to melt in response to the Excel. I think vals will adapt over time to Excel, but early melt off is expected. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
That has been my exact experience!

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