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All In One Fertilizer?

What's the best all-in-one fertilizer? I've heard good things about EI, but that it's missing potassium and the other two main 'elements'?

Also... What's the difference between macro and micro? Simply the size? Do different types of... What do you call them? Chemicals? Elements of fertilizer?.... fall into different categories of macro/micro? I haven't taken Chem yet (next year! ^.^) so this is all new to me. So far the plants in my tanks are surviving, but not doing as good as they could be. The main deficiency is Nitrate, though.
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All In One Fertilizer?

What do you mean EI is missing potassium and other elements? Normally with EI people mix up salts into a solution or dose dry meaning you can put whatever is needed into it. EI is a complete package (Some plants like nutrient substrate or root tabs too) Alot of people like the Seachem range of fertilisers as an all in one.


Macros are nutrients used in large amounts (Nitrogen, Phosphorous, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium)

Micros are nutrients used in small amounts (iron, boron, copper molybdenum ect...)

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Macro: N, P, K
Secondary Macro: S, Ca, Mg
Micro: Fe, B, Zn, Cu, Mn, Mo, Cl, Ni

EI covers everything really, but I wouldn't call it an "all in one" fertilizer. People usually have success with it. Look up Thrive and PPS-Pro as well.

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Oscar, I just meant that I saw somewhere that someone was dosing EI and plants were still showing Potassium(?) and Magnesium(?) deficiencies.

Quagulator, I'll look up both, thanks! Is Thrive the one that Aquarium Co-Op uses? (Actually, I think he uses Easy Green?, but not sure.)
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Oscar, I just meant that I saw somewhere that someone was dosing EI and plants were still showing Potassium(?) and Magnesium(?) deficiencies.

Quagulator, I'll look up both, thanks! Is Thrive the one that Aquarium Co-Op uses? (Actually, I think he uses Easy Green?, but not sure.)
Just google it, I use EI and mod it to me needs along with other sources so I'm not familiar with Thrive or Co-op's stuff. What isn't supplied from EI is usually found within tap water anyway. If you go that route, just watch your plants and adjust as necessary. Lots of people will supplement micros with flourish, flourish Iron, CaSO4, MgSO4, CaCL2 etc. etc. depending on what their plants are telling them.

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Okay... So, which would you buy? I see there's a difference between the PPS-pro and regular PPS... Just not sure the benefits of either and/or reasons not to pay the extra $12.50.

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Estimative Index | Aquarium Fertilizer | Green Leaf Aquariums

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I think the main difference is the MgSO4 and K2SO4. Are both necessary?
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Macro: N, P, K
Secondary Macro: S, Ca, Mg
Micro: Fe, B, Zn, Cu, Mn, Mo, Cl, Ni
Lately I've been using the dry salts for NPK and using Flourish for the micros since it contains everything else. I usually use CSM+B for micros but it doesn't contain as much as the Flourish. I'm sorta seeing if it makes any difference or not. Many of the other micros are supplied by the tap and are usually sufficient in most cases.
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Like someone mentioned, check this one out too: Thrive 500ml | Premium Liquid Fertilizer | NilocG Aquatics
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Like someone mentioned, check this one out too: Thrive 500ml | Premium Liquid Fertilizer | NilocG Aquatics
This is what I use... has worked great for me.
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Lately I've been using the dry salts for NPK and using Flourish for the micros since it contains everything else. I usually use CSM+B for micros but it doesn't contain as much as the Flourish. I'm sorta seeing if it makes any difference or not. Many of the other micros are supplied by the tap and are usually sufficient in most cases.
I do the same thing. Although when my big bottle of Flourish runs out, I'll just make my micro solution with CSM+B, as I already have some. I'm curious as to whether or not you see a noticeable difference. I've seen it mentioned elsewhere that Flourish(comprehensive) is mainly just a source for iron and that seachem trace should be used in conjunction with it. Not sure how much difference this makes to the average planted tank.

Another thing to note is the source of iron chelate used should be chosen based on your pH. EDTA loses much of it's effectiveness in a pH higher than 6.5. DTPA would be a better source for harder water sources. I just wait until CO2 levels drop my pH to 6.4, which is just about an hour after the solenoid turns my gas on. Not sure what all binds with EDTA during the night but I don't think it matters so much when dosing it daily and doing religious water changes each week.
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