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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-19-2017, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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I had a female Bosemani rainbow that got a bacteria infection on both side of her body and she also had fin rot. I treated the whole tank with Melafix for over a week than some people on here told me to try seachem kanaplex or neoplex. I treated my tank with kanaplex 2-3 days before she passed. Now I think 2 of my american flagfish appear to have popeye and looks like all my female bosemani rainbow fish have white on their upper lip. I'm going to do a 40 to 50% water change every other day and treat the tank with kanaplex every other day also.

My tank is 60 gallons heavy stock and heavy plant load. Filters - FX4 and Eheim 2217
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Ammonia- 0ppm
Nitrite- 0ppm
Nitrate- 0ppm
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I do a 50% water change every tuesday and clean filter with tank water every 4 weeks.

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0 Nitrate? That's pretty odd. Are you using the API liquid test? If so, are you smashing Bottle #2 around until it just about breaks? If it's heavily stocked you should be showing some nitrates.
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There are times when we may look at a problem and not really see it. I might see the nitrate reading as missing some but not enough to be a true death cause.
Are you familiar with the fish types you have to tell how they might be acting versus a normal healthy tank? What I might look for is not so much a bad water situation as you seem to know about how to cover that end. I might wonder about stress in heavy stock tank.
I feel fish will do some strange things when they tend to feel too cramped, even when it doesn't lead to water problems. If you see actions like hiding or standing in the corner out of sight, look at overcrowding as a potential problem.
If you've ever lived in a barracks , etc. with 50-60 other folks around, you know what I mean. It may not kill you directly but you come out feeling nearly dead. Fish stress can come from different things and it can lead to disease.
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0 Nitrate? That's pretty odd. Are you using the API liquid test? If so, are you smashing Bottle #2 around until it just about breaks? If it's heavily stocked you should be showing some nitrates.
Yes I use the API liquid test kit. I did a 30% water change tonight and a 50% two days ago. I beat the crap out of Nitrate bottle #2 and now they're might be a slight orange tint to the test tube. No more than 5ppm.

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There are times when we may look at a problem and not really see it. I might see the nitrate reading as missing some but not enough to be a true death cause.
Are you familiar with the fish types you have to tell how they might be acting versus a normal healthy tank? What I might look for is not so much a bad water situation as you seem to know about how to cover that end. I might wonder about stress in heavy stock tank.
I feel fish will do some strange things when they tend to feel too cramped, even when it doesn't lead to water problems. If you see actions like hiding or standing in the corner out of sight, look at overcrowding as a potential problem.
If you've ever lived in a barracks , etc. with 50-60 other folks around, you know what I mean. It may not kill you directly but you come out feeling nearly dead. Fish stress can come from different things and it can lead to disease.
Thanks for your reply Rich. None of the fish are hiding or hanging out in the corner of the tank. The Bosemani Rainbows are in the front center and at feeding time attack the food along with the other fish. The tank isnt lfs stocked but according to aquadvisor it is overstocked. Can the sick female Bosemani get the other fish sick?

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Once you have used the nitrate #2 bottle without beating it around, the concentration of solids to water in the bottle is off and it might as well be discarded for a new bottle.


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So daily eveyday or everyother day water changes and kanaplex is the way to go?

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I have no idea if you can get a hold of it in the US. But eSHa Exit and eSHa 2000, is the only medicine I ever needed. Over the last 10-12 years I had fish I had Ick, different fungus's, parasites, fin rot and pop-eye (this is more a symptom than actual disease though). Cleared them all. And It doesn't harm your filter bacteria at all or fauna, only thing to be mindful of is eSHa 2000 and shrimp as it contains some copper. You can even use them both at the same time to cover all bases, and is actually recommended to do so unless you are 100% sure what the fish have. Not sure if this is just a statement to make more money though, but it works well. Luckily I haven't needed to use them in years, knock on wood. But I still have a bottle of each, just in case.

WC is never a bad thing as long as the water is pretty closely matched to the tank water. The more the merrier, every other day should be fine though imo. Just make sure to add more medicine to get the levels where they need to be according to directions again.


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I have no idea if you can get a hold of it in the US. But eSHa Exit and eSHa 2000, is the only medicine I ever needed. Over the last 10-12 years I had fish I had Ick, different fungus's, parasites, fin rot and pop-eye (this is more a symptom than actual disease though). Cleared them all. And It doesn't harm your filter bacteria at all or fauna, only thing to be mindful of is eSHa 2000 and shrimp as it contains some copper. You can even use them both at the same time to cover all bases, and is actually recommended to do so unless you are 100% sure what the fish have. Not sure if this is just a statement to make more money though, but it works well. Luckily I haven't needed to use them in years, knock on wood. But I still have a bottle of each, just in case.

WC is never a bad thing as long as the water is pretty closely matched to the tank water. The more the merrier, every other day should be fine though imo. Just make sure to add more medicine to get the levels where they need to be according to directions again.
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