By his explanation "I added a dose of co2 (flourish)", most of us understood Seachem Flourish Excel, which is the product's full name. I would think this is much more likely to be what he meant.
The OP of course can clarify it. Regardless of that, both products are completely fine.
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Sorry for the confusion... "Seachem Flourish" is the exact name, however it doesn't say on the bottle anywhere that it is Excel. Here's the product
Diego rams are pretty sensitive. That being said if you put excel or any plant ferts in rams should fine. I have done heavy doses of Excel to fight algae, I have dosed EI ferts, I also do pressurized co2 with all that my rams breed like crazy.
I have a few questions. Where did you get the ram? How long was it in the water? What are your water parameters? Answering these questions will help us help you figure out what's going on. Don't give up rams are a wonderful fish.
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I got the rams from a Pet Supermarket, about a month ago. He was fine, but then suddenly started acting odd. I did do a little bit of research and I understand more about Rams now.. it sounds like most big box stores sell genetically modified rams from Asia. I guess I'll just have to find a more reliable source/breeder. And I've tried many rams in the past 4 years. I've went thrua lot of GBRs and Electric Blues... definitely don't want to give up on them because they're awesome looking fish, I just want to learn how to actually have them last longer than a month. I keep my temperature at 80 F, ammonia, ph, nitrate/nitirites are good as well. I see other people here coming up with an exact # for their water levels, I'm not quite sure how to do that. I just use the 5-1 test kit strips and I get my results but they're color coded not numerical lol.
I've ALWAYS had issues w/ Rams, regardless of acclimation process and having pristine water quality. Welcome to the forum:-)
First off, Mikrogeophagus Ramirezi is delicate to poor water quality and/or lack of a varied diet. It is imperitive (in order to have success) that you source rams from the proper breeders or people who have lots of expertise with the fish as they truly CARE. The majority of rams in the trade are imported from Asia and other countries where hormones and other unnatural treatments are used in order to cause spawning. This can cause long term issues with a fish. You seem to say that the ram seemed sick after dosing flourish, and if this is the case, I would refrain from dosing any more into the tank any time soon.
In the meantime, do a large water change, I would do 50%, and try to feed. If it is still accepting food, you should be fine. If he doesn't, you might have a problem!
Pics would be great!
Thank you so much for that! I actually posted an "Introduction" post but I don't think the moderators have gotten around to approving it. None the less here are some pics of my setup right now. (Partial-real plants considering I'm waiting to upgrade my lighting before I go full plants)
And yeah, I was doing research on GBRs genetically modified coming from Asia. I gotta figure out a reliable breeder or supplier then. Definitely wana get another one since this one kicked the bucket. :X
OP say's tank has been running for 4 yrs and Ram just recently started acting hinckey after Excel dose.
If they have had the ram for some time,it may be older fish that was just old.
They have relatively short life span of around 3 yrs
Some being sold could be close to two or three yrs when purchased.
Just a thought.
Yup, I've had the tank established for 4 years but I've gone through different phases of fish along the way. The ram I had just gotten maybe about a month ago from Pet Supermarket, so he could've just coincidentially died after I added Flourish. I was just thinking maybe that could've been a cause, based of all these informative replies, sounds like we can rule that out tho.
Bump: Okay... so I just found out how to attach images to my post lol