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Dry fertilizer.

Any suggestions on dry fertilizer for my 20 g long? I have HC, Staurogyne Repens, Cyperus Helfeiri, X-mas moss, and some sort of sword. I'm running 1-2 bps pressurized Co2 for 9 hours per day. Lighting is Finnex planted +24/7. I have been dosing Seachem flourish once a week. I know little to nothing about fertilizing the planted tank. Question time. Do I need to be dosing macro and micro nutrients or could I slide by with the flourish? If I should be dosing both macro and micro, where should I get it from? What method of dosing would be recommended for someone with such little knowledge of the matter at hand?


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You have a great looking tank as is!! What do you feel needs improvement? I think it is lovely 😁

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http://nilocg.com/ei-based-npk-csm-b/

Also has all the information you need on his site.

As for dosing macros and micros over flourish, you need all 3 micros, micros and flourish for Trace elements.

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Some easy answers but then some really hard ones as well!
How to start? I suggest doing some study on EI (estimative index) dosing as a pretty good place to start. As in most things, I find it is something to start with the stated amounts and then see if it can be tweaked a bit to get closer to what you want. It is more designed for use of dry ferts but that is the second point.
I do recommend using dry ferts for a couple reasons. One is the price as you are paying for the fert rather than the fert mixed in water!! It is really easy to stir the fert in a cup of water and dump it in or to mix a bunch and then add a portion of the mix. But for the fert premixed in the bottle, you do get some convenience but you are also getting to pay for really expensive water!
Some study is needed to decide which is right for you on the price/convenience point but then I find another reason to go dry. They don't spoil, last a long time and are easy to store but the biggie is that you are able to adapt it as needed. Too much nitrate in the tank and you may want to drop adding the potassium nitrate. With premixed, it's in the mix and you go with adding it when you add any other that you really need.
This is my personal choice for ferts at the best price and service I can find.
Dry Fertilizer | Aquarium Fertilizer
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Here is a good source for ferts.

Dosing Instructions
Dosing instructions for said ferts.

Need to choose between EI or PPS.

https://sites.google.com/site/aquati...r/home/pps-pro
Link to Edwards PPS-Pro form of dosing.

Estimative Index - Aquarium Plants - Barr Report
Link to Tom's EI Dosing.

Flourish Comprehensive is not a one stop cure all dosing solution.
It only provides micros.
Macros are the largest volume consumed by aquatic plants, N,P, and K.
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You have a great looking tank as is!! What do you feel needs improvement? I think it is lovely

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Thanks! It's my first planted tank, I love it! I just want to be sure I'm giving my plants everything they need is all.


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EI based NPK + CSM+B - NilocG Aquatics

Here is a good source for ferts.



Dosing Instructions

Dosing instructions for said ferts.



Need to choose between EI or PPS.



https://sites.google.com/site/aquati...r/home/pps-pro

Link to Edwards PPS-Pro form of dosing.



Estimative Index - Aquarium Plants - Barr Report

Link to Tom's EI Dosing.



Flourish Comprehensive is not a one stop cure all dosing solution.

It only provides micros.

Macros are the largest volume consumed by aquatic plants, N,P, and K.


Thanks! Everything I needed to know really. I figured the flourish wasn't gonna cut it.


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Thanks! It's my first planted tank, I love it! I just want to be sure I'm giving my plants everything they need is all.


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Thanks! Everything I needed to know really. I figured the flourish wasn't gonna cut it.


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Flourish is good but pricey. And you need more than just Flourish. You need Flourish iron, flourish pottasium, flourish nitrogen, flourish trace, flourish advance. Sure I missed one but you get the idea. I currently use Flourish and with good results. I follow their dosing guide they have. But it's MUCH more expensive because you are paying in a sense mostly for water. As soon as all my Flourish runs out I will be using the nilocG dry ferts that will be here tomorrow. Super easy to do. They have a diy dry fert package that gives you two dosing bottles. A pre mixed packet of the micro ferts you simply mix in one bottle with 500 ml of RO water and a pre mixed packet of the macro ferts you mix in the other bottle with 500ml of water. Then you dose each one 3 times per week on alternating days. Very simple and gives you everything your plants will need. And MUCH cheaper than the seachem Flourish line.


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