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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-08-2017, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thrive + in 7.5 ph

Was accidently shipped thrive + instead of regular thrive. The seller is sending me the right one , but, how many of you would still use thrive + in a ph above 7? (Third party seller I may add)

For those unaware, thrive is meant for a ph above 7 and thrive plus is for below.

I spoke with nilocg and he said he would still use it, but it will add ammonia which isn't good.

Anybody use thrive + ?

Great customer service from this company might I add.
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I know we spoke but I would like to add to what I had previously said. Thrive+ contains some urea. In tanks with a ph under 7 then all of that urea is in the form of ammonium which is harmless. As the ph rises above 7 some of that ammounium loses a hydrogen and is present in the form of ammonia which can be harmful at elevated levels. At a ph of 7.5 the amount of ammonia is extremely low(under 1%). Here is a chart that will tell you the amount: https://bristolfish.org/2012/09/10/f...-are-too-high/

As you can see this is also dependent on temperature, the warmer the water is the more ammonia that will be present.

BTW: Thrive really isnt intended just for higher ph tanks, it can be used across all ph levels, its just Thrive+ that is intended to be used on tanks with a lower ph.

Let me know if you have any further questions either here or through FB. Thanks.
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I know we spoke but I would like to add to what I had previously said. Thrive+ contains some urea. In tanks with a ph under 7 then all of that urea is in the form of ammonium which is harmless. As the ph rises above 7 some of that ammounium loses a hydrogen and is present in the form of ammonia which can be harmful at elevated levels. At a ph of 7.5 the amount of ammonia is extremely low(under 1%). Here is a chart that will tell you the amount: https://bristolfish.org/2012/09/10/f...-are-too-high/

As you can see this is also dependent on temperature, the warmer the water is the more ammonia that will be present.

BTW: Thrive really isnt intended just for higher ph tanks, it can be used across all ph levels, its just Thrive+ that is intended to be used on tanks with a lower ph.

Let me know if you have any further questions either here or through FB. Thanks.
Would you recommend Thrive (regular) over Thrive+ when your low pH (less than 7) planted tank contains both shrimp and fish?
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Would you recommend Thrive (regular) over Thrive+ when your low pH (less than 7) planted tank contains both shrimp and fish?
I think either would be fine there.
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