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Chlorine Deficiency?

I was reading that chlorine is one of the micronutrients used in plants. I don't have any chlorine in my water, and the trace mix I use doesn't have any. Is it possible to have a deficiency in this? Does anyone dose chlorine?
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I was reading that chlorine is one of the micronutrients used in plants. I don't have any chlorine in my water, and the trace mix I use doesn't have any. Is it possible to have a deficiency in this? Does anyone dose chlorine?
Where did you read that chlorine is a micronutrient?


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I was reading that chlorine is one of the micronutrients used in plants. I don't have any chlorine in my water, and the trace mix I use doesn't have any. Is it possible to have a deficiency in this? Does anyone dose chlorine?
Hi crypticmonk,

Chlorine is a gas, chloride is a possible nutrient though seldom causes a deficiency.

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Leaves eventually become bronze colored....chloride deficiency
If you post a picture maybe we can give you some idea where to start.
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Where did you read that chlorine is a micronutrient?
Here are a couple sources, but I'm surprised you haven't heard this, it's pretty well documented that chlorine is a micronutrient for plants...
https://www.clemson.edu/public/regul...onutrients.pdf
Macronutrients and micronutrients - Aquarium-fertilizer.com

And I just saw that Flourish has Chlorine in it, so I guess it is used...

Bump: And yes, Seattle_Aquarist, technically it is Chloride, but it's kind of a Phosphorus vs. Phosphate, Nitrogen vs. Nitrate thing (i.e. doesn't really matter).

I don't know what is going on with my plants, and no one else does either (I tried posting a few months ago about it). It's just something I thought of, because I know there is no Chloride in the water, although, like I said, I just realized Flourish has Cl in it (I just use the tabs), so maybe that's enough. It's just something people don't talk about, and I'm not sure why...It's like Phosphates, people just talk about how bad it is, but no one talks about the fact that it can easily become a deficiency (I unfortunately found this out after several months of near zero ppm)...
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existing in the soil as the chloride (Cl-) anion.
As I said chloride, not chlorine. Yes Seachem states that there is 'chlorine' in their Flourish Comprehensive, it is in the form of chloride being dosed as Potassium Chloride the first "Derived from" ingredient. So are the leaves of your plant turning 'Bronze'?

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As I said chloride, not chlorine. Yes Seachem states that there is 'chlorine' in their Flourish Comprehensive, it is in the form of chloride being dosed as Potassium Chloride the first "Derived from" ingredient. So are the leaves of your plant turning 'Bronze'?
I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, so don't be offended, but you know that Chloride is a compound and not an element, right? Chlorine is the ELEMENT you are adding, just like when you add Nitrate, Nitrogen is the element plants use. Chloride has Chlorine in it.
And I also realized that I am probably getting enough from Seachem Replenish, so I don't think it's a concern for me, but I do think people should take this into consideration. I was wondering, does anyone know exactly how dechlorinators work? Would they affect Chloride?
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Dechlorinators just lock up the chlorine so it can't kill. It's still in the water, so plants probably have some way of absorbing it. Even if your water isn't chlorinated, it probably has some salt (sodium chloride) in it that your plants are using.

If you post a pic of your plants, we might be able to tell you what's wrong with them. Chances are, it's something more common.

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Chlorine/chloride deficiency is the last thing you should look at. Trace Chloride is naturally occurring in the soil. Try Other things like Macros,CO2,secondary macros, and then Micros.

If you have pictures of your plants, we can identify the deficiency.
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Well these are from the original post I made. The plants are worse now though (all of the lower leaves are gone). I don't know if you saw the post I made today on Microplex, but I'm thinking I overdosed on it. I also am pretty sure I had a Potassium, Phosphate, and Iron deficiency (the last two I know for sure, since I tested for them). So I'm pretty sure I know what's going on (also have been having insanely high Nitrates and algae), but you can take a look at them.
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Hi crypticmonk,

Thanks for the pics, tell me about your water...PH, dKH, dGH. Also, if you are on city water I should be able to look up the most recent water analysis by your local water company.....where do you live (besides the USA)?

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Hi crypticmonk,

Thanks for the pics, tell me about your water...PH, dKH, dGH. Also, if you are on city water I should be able to look up the most recent water analysis by your local water company.....where do you live (besides the USA)?
Thanks, but I've looked at it already. Plus, I only use 1/3 tap water, the rest is RO.
All other parameters are fine, pH6.8, KH 4, dGH 8.
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So how much nutrients are you dosing? Deficiencies do come in multiples.


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I dont think you should be worried over Chloride deficiency. there are plenty more macro and micro nutrients that you need to check for. here you can check out the deficiency symptoms of some of the major nutrients.


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