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Hello all,

I'm planing on setting up a 20g long planted tank. I have a 5 gallon tank with a couple of tetras (I know, it's bad) Today I decided to test my KH and GH out of curiosity and got readings of:

KH: 300+ ppm
GH:75 ppm
pH: 8.4

I'm new to the idea of planted tanks but I'm pretty sure plants will not survive these parameters, let alone most fish. I do know that my water system runs from a well and is on a salt filtration system. I believe that this is where my problem lies.

My question is, how can I lower my KH to lower pH? Any and all suggestions/theories/ideas are welcomed.

Thanks in advance!
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Hello all,



I'm planing on setting up a 20g long planted tank. I have a 5 gallon tank with a couple of tetras (I know, it's bad) Today I decided to test my KH and GH out of curiosity and got readings of:



KH: 300+ ppm

GH:75 ppm

pH: 8.4



I'm new to the idea of planted tanks but I'm pretty sure plants will not survive these parameters, let alone most fish. I do know that my water system runs from a well and is on a salt filtration system. I believe that this is where my problem lies.



My question is, how can I lower my KH to lower pH? Any and all suggestions/theories/ideas are welcomed.



Thanks in advance!


Mix with ro water. Do a water change with 50% ro water (usually$1 per 5 gallons) and 50% tap/well water and see what you get and go from there. You may need less ro water or more depending on your goal.


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Hi Cremepuff,

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It's possible that only the interior faucets are on the water softener system but not the exterior (outdoor) faucets; check the dKH and dGH of the water from your outdoor faucets and see if it is much softer.

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It's possible that only the interior faucets are on the water softener system but not the exterior (outdoor) faucets; check the dKH and dGH of the water from your outdoor faucets and see if it is much softer.

Thank you!

I just checked and it turns out ALL water sources are connected to the softener system. Not only is my house old, but the whole piping system was done wrong, so no raw water source. thanks for the suggestion though!

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Mix with ro water. Do a water change with 50% ro water (usually$1 per 5 gallons) and 50% tap/well water and see what you get and go from there. You may need less ro water or more depending on your goal.


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So it's sort of a trail and error type deal? I've found out the majority of the time setting up aquariums tend to be trail and error I'll definitely try it out, just need to find a place that sells it by the gallon (there was a great place in Houston but that was also back when I had a water dispenser)
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You can buy an under the sink RO unit from the hardware store to make your own RO.


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Thank you!

I just checked and it turns out ALL water sources are connected to the softener system. Not only is my house old, but the whole piping system was done wrong, so no raw water source. thanks for the suggestion though!

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So it's sort of a trail and error type deal? I've found out the majority of the time setting up aquariums tend to be trail and error I'll definitely try it out, just need to find a place that sells it by the gallon (there was a great place in Houston but that was also back when I had a water dispenser)


Here in az every grocery store, gas station has a drinking water dispenser to fill your own containers. Usually $.25 per gallon or 5 for $1.00. Look at your local grocer the next time your out. I would say look at what you want you're kh to be and do the math on how much to dilute your tap water. If you want 150ppm kh then do 50% ro water. If you want 75ppm kh use 75% ro water and so on. You'll want to aim for 3-8 kh German degrees but that's doesn't mean you have to have that. Look up the conversion for ppm to German degrees for kh. I don't remember what it is off hand. I think gh is dividing the ppm by 17 or something and that will give you the German degrees for gh. Quick internet search will give you the answer though. The other persons suggestion of checking the outside faucets was good. Too bad it didn't work out.


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