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Whats causes this on my Anubias and sword plant

What is this on anubias and sword plant leafs, also the anubias leafs curl , the tank is CO2 injected night PH-7.1 // day PH-6-1 /// KH-4 /// GH-4 ///Fe-.33ppm /// PO4- 2.5ppm /// NO3-15ppm ( my nitrates were high, just got it under control by adding purigen to filter , upped my water changes ) I do not have a potassium test kit ( what is the best Potassium test kit for a planted freshwater tank ) I use R/O water reconditioned with GH booster& alkaline buffer. Thanks for any help.
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It looks like a tox of some sort. Are the brown spots necrotic spots?
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It looks like a tox of some sort. Are the brown spots necrotic spots?


Not shore , you can rub must of it off the leaf with your finger or tooth brush !
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Not shore , you can rub must of it off the leaf with your finger or tooth brush !
Uh, its Algae
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diatoms, I'm guessing your tank is fairly new?

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diatoms, I'm guessing your tank is fairly new?


No , its been set for about 2 years now
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No , its been set for about 2 years now
Still looks like diatoms. Did you rescape or disturb the substrate recently. That will do it in an established tank.

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Still looks like diatoms. Did you rescape or disturb the substrate recently. That will do it in an established tank.


I agree ( diatom ) , No rescape , I do push root tabs in the substrate every 3-4 weeks , other than that no I have not disturb the substrate . I did have really high nitrate levels from over feeding nitrate fert. , lack of water changes , and build up of organics . I have that all under control now ,I added purigen to my filter , removing any old plant matter , did more water changes, just at the point now seeing if nitrate go up or down with out adding any nitrate fert. and doing one water change a week
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All aboard the tox train ! Toooot tooooot


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OK , so would extremely high nitrates Couse this , as I said in post #1 , may nitrate were high for months ( was not doing enough water changes , was still adding KNO3 ferts and had organic build up in tank )Got this all under control now , Nitrates are at 15-20 ppm . SHOULD THIS CLEAR UP WITH TIME NOW ???
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Excess nitrates would not cause the diatoms but it can cause the cupping of the leaves. Some of the macrandra older leaves are deformed and shriveled which could be caused by nitrate tox inducing a Ca deficiency, but other nutrients in excess can cause the same symptoms, e.g. excess potassium.

In general, all nutrients must be in relative proportion to one another. While there are some that say nutrient ratios don't matter, this has no scientific support. E.g. some say excess phosphate doesn't cause harm, however, excess phosphate can induce micronutrient deficiencies and P tox in extreme excess. But similarly, excess micros can cause toxicity which can be partially relieved by adding phosphate back into proportion. This is well documented in the plant sciences literature, from farmers' experiences, as well as planted tank hobbyists.
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Has lighting been increased recently? This along with the excess organic matter mentioned before,and stepped up water changes could result in temporary change in environment that gave diatom/algae activity a boost.
I might reduce lighting period by an hour or two if more than eight hour's presently, and this along with the stepped up maint/water changes,filter cleaning,diffuser cleaning,maybe look to see that good flow in the tank allows the gas to reach all area's before rising up and out of the tank.
Can maybe increase surface movement and increase the CO2 a bit more?
Agree that nutrient availability should be consistent and in proportion's.(vary's)
If the tank has been set up for month's and issue is only recently risen,then I might backtrack to see what changes I may have adopted that triggered the bloom.
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I'm having the same problem, along with bba. Have been removing as much bba as possible, losing half my plant mass a few weeks after trying the one-two punch treatment. Would the leaves that look like yours have to be removed too? I wonder.
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