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Fertalizer Help?

I know these newb posts are really annoying, but i'm feeling pretty lost, and the more i read the more confused i get. I have a 10 gallon setup with a t8 15w light. My goal is to learn enough about aquatic plants to have a nice full carpet of dwarf hairgrass in my tank along with some wisteria/javafern, maybe some other low light plants. I'm in the process of making a diy co2 generator, and I know what kind of substrate i should get. Fertalizers kind of intimidate me, and i'd like to make sure my water parameters are safe for my dwarf puffer. Is there like one fertalizer product that would effectively fertalize my tank for my plants, or would i have to understand everything there is to fertalizers? I'm thinking of upgrading my lights, because i only have 1.5 wpg, and i read that dwarf hairgrass needs better lighting for a full carpet effect.
Any help on explaining fertalization would be greatly appreciated, I have no idea on where to start.
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You can look at this thread, https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/fertilizers-water-parameters/21944-_dosing-regimes_.html Look at the 20 to 40 gallon then then use a light half. All tanks are a little driftnet so you will have to fine tune it to your tank.
This is a good package to start with http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/aquarium-fertilizers-supplements/micro-macro-fertilizers.html
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So are all these fertalizers necessary? One thing i'm a little confused about, i thought fertalizers came in liquid form, but a lot of people talk about dry dosing. Whats that all about?
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You can get them in liquid, but you pay for a lot of water and it adds up. Dry cost a lot less and that package will last a long time. I would guess will over a year.
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so that $20 package would probably last bout a year, and i'd be all set on fertalizers? Then i should just dose according to the sticky?
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I would say it would last longer then a year. The sticky is a good place to start, but you will have to fine tune for your tank.
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ok thanks for the help, just out of curiosity how do people tell which fertalizer they need to use to fine tune it to their tank? do certain fertalizer deficiencies have different effects on plants?
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ok thanks for the help, just out of curiosity how do people tell which fertalizer they need to use to fine tune it to their tank? do certain fertalizer deficiencies have different effects on plants?
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The easiest way to start from scratch and understand it all for free is to visit Rex Grigg's site. Its all laid out in a straight line by topic from start to trimming as the plants grow out the top of your tank.

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Ok, thanks for all of the links, I'll be sure to read them all
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ok, one quick question, i read rex's posts about dry ferts, which really clarified alot. When dry dosing he says to mix the amount in 250 ml of water. Is it super important to have exactly 250ml to mix it with, or could i just mix the ferts in with a cup of water and poor them into the tank?
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One more, about dosing nitrates. Would there be any danger in harming my fish by dosing nitrates. At the moment all i have is one dwarf puffer in a ten, but i plan on adding extra shrimp. if the ball really gets rolling on these plants will nitrates not even be a danger to my fish as they will suck them all up, or do i even need to dose nitrates with fish in the tank?
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ok, one quick question, i read rex's posts about dry ferts, which really clarified alot. When dry dosing he says to mix the amount in 250 ml of water. Is it super important to have exactly 250ml to mix it with, or could i just mix the ferts in with a cup of water and poor them into the tank?
If you are dosing using the dry method, most people just use enough water so that the daily dose will dissolve, and then dump it into the tank.

Unless you are trying to get a PMDD style, daily dosing routine? That would be different though...

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One more, about dosing nitrates. Would there be any danger in harming my fish by dosing nitrates. At the moment all i have is one dwarf puffer in a ten, but i plan on adding extra shrimp. if the ball really gets rolling on these plants will nitrates not even be a danger to my fish as they will suck them all up, or do i even need to dose nitrates with fish in the tank?
Excess nitrates can be bad for fish. If your plants start to do very well, they will uptake all the nitrates from the water, meaning that you would have to dose nitrates to keep up with their demand. In a high light, well planted tank, it is unlikely that the wastes produced by the livestock can meet the demands of the plants.

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no, i'm not trying to do a daily routine, i'd just like to do the typical dosing, So if i just poured the amount of dry dose in a cup of water, let it dissolve, and poured it in my tank it would work fine?
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