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Mixing my own micros

I have CSM+B, and bought some ferrous gluconate from aquariumfets. Instead of mixing them up separately I was thinking of mixing them. I was thinking 4 Tablespoons for CSM and 2 Tablespoons of ferrous gluconate. Then 2 Tablespoons of that mixture in 500ml H2O. Seem like a good mix?


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I was reading this thread the other day about exactly what you are asking about. It sounds like it may work really well.
Check out post #9 from Tom Barr about how mixes his batch up.
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For my mixture I used the following ratio 4 (CSM+B):1 (Ferrous Gluconate):1 (13% Chleated Iron)

So for 500mL of water I use 2 tbsp CSM+B, 0.5 tbsp Ferrous Gluconate, and 0.5 tbsp Chleated Iron.

This is based on Toms recommended ratio he listed.

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For my mixture I used the following ratio 4 (CSM+B):1 (Ferrous Gluconate):1 (13% Chleated Iron)

So for 500mL of water I use 2 tbsp CSM+B, 0.5 tbsp Ferrous Gluconate, and 0.5 tbsp Chleated Iron.

This is based on Toms recommended ratio he listed.

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Thanks, so if I dont have the chleated iron, I would just use 4 tablespoons of CSM and 1 tablespoons of the ferrous gluconate


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Thanks, so if I dont have the chleated iron, I would just use 4 tablespoons of CSM and 1 tablespoons of the ferrous gluconate
I would still just use a 1/2 tbsp of the Ferrous Gluconate.

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I was reading your post wrong craig, you had it for 500ml, I was wondering why your ratio was off. So without the chleated iron, I would do 2 Tabelspoons CSM+B and 1 Tablespoon fe gluconate, no? Your adding and extra Tablespoon of iron to your CSM.


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Well I'm adding an extra 1/2 tbsp of Iron of 2 different forms of iron. Here is the info I used that Tom Barr posted:

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CMS+B + Fe Gluconate+ DTPA Fe.



4:1:1 by mass should make a nice trace mix.

This would be good for a KH of say 0-8.

If the KH is higher, I'd opt for CMS+B, DTPA Fe, and EDDHA Fe

8:3:1 ratio.



You can mix, match in between.

Some use the Fe separate also and dose a spike of Fe here and there.

I mix them, one less issue to dose.



This covers most all the bases as far weak, mid and strong chelation/ligands.

No matter what preference, general KH range, you get short easy term Fe, mid and long term Fe for the plants.




At one point, I was going to make a complete trace formula and use this type of mix for the chelators for Fe, and the ratios of traces found in the 55 species that had been analzyed, but I just could not see much difference between that, and simply doping CMS with some trace Fe, I doubt anyone could. It also would had cost 30-40$ lb, when CMS is much cheaper and you only need a little Fe gluc and DTPA etc.



Still, folks drop 110$ for 5 liters of Tropica, or 20$ a liter for Seachem.

ADA? Eck.......even worse.



There's a market for it. Not my market for my tanks though.

I used TMG for many years, so they've gotten enough $ from me as well as other companies.



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I would still only add 1/2 tbsp of Ferrous Gluconate though. Each form has different properties and gets assumed by the plants at different times. I bolded that part in Toms' qoute.

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