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flourish and excel for low light?

I'm planning on putting in an order in today for just about all the equipment I will need to set up my old 10 gallon tank as a low light planted tank. I'm only going to be looking into simple low light plants (java fern, java moss, etc.) and using an incandescent strip with compact fluorescent bulbs. Substrate with be flourite black sand. To set everything up is going to be roughly $100, and that's a little steep for me. I'm wondering if flourish and/or excel are actually necessary for a low light tank or could I skip them? The only inhabitants will be one betta and possibly a couple of otos if it seems like the betta will get along well. Possibly a couple snails also, but I'm still unsure as to whether or not inverts survive in my water currently. Are flourish and excel needed? And if so do I just follow the instructions for dosing? This will by my first planted tank.
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If it is a low light tank, with simple to keep plants, then regular water changes may be able to provide all the nutrients that your plants will need.

As such, Flourish and Excel are likely not required for your plants to survive.

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Would you say that one is more important than the other?
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If you decide to get them, here are the Seachem recommended dosing amounts for 10 gal.
Flourish: 0.8 mL 2x weekly
Excel: 1.0 mL daily and 5.0 mL after water change.

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No there not necessary but I use Ultra GH Booster and Excel in my low-tech tanks as my fert regiment and I have a ton or growth on my Java Moss, Java Fern, hornwort so much that I have to run over-run tanks and buckets for them.

I mix GH Booster (with iron) into my pre-mix water on every WC and then dose Excel every other week on those tanks. That's allot cheaper than what your talking about. I can run 30 of those tanks a year on one bag of GH booster and a couple of bottles of Excel.

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Brad what is the recomended dosing for GH Booster for 10gl?
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what about gH booster from commonly available ingredients:

200g K2SO4 (Potassium Sulphate / Sulphate of Potash)
170g CaSO4 (Plaster of Paris. CaCl2.2H20 or Calcium Chloride pellets such as Damprid can also be used.)
120g MgSO4 (Epsom Salts)
10g Chelated Iron
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About a tad (1/8tsp) per 10gal and yes you can mix it yourself it's pretty easy. My "Ultra" GH Booster didn't come from Greenleaf I had a bag left over from aquariumfertilizer.com so I added the FeSO4 myself (the next bag will be from Greenleaf tho at $5 a 1lb it isn't much).

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