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I visited a bunch of landscaping companies around the town today and had no luck. They all carry pretty much same stuff. The best sand I could find was the white masonary sand. It's coarse and has good texture but it's white... No one carries yellow brownish sand. I am falling back to pea gravel from HomeDepot...

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I am interested to know how this works for you please keep us informed!

Another idea is stones fed to chickens. They call it chicken grit. A good farm supply store will sell it. Chickens eat small stones when given a chance because they aid in their digestion. I have never tried it myself but there are reports on this forum of folks having good luck with it and it is exceptionally cheap. If you decide the pea gravel is a no go then you could try this as another option.

It is also possible to go finer than the grit used in your posted tank and just use straight sand. Something like play sand works well. Lots of folks use this as their substrate of choice. You need to gravel vac it differently but it grows plants just fine.

No matter what you will want substrate supports (purchased or home made) for the hills.
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The HomeDepot pea gravel in reality doesn't look like in the picture. It's not yello brown, its mostly black and its too coarse. No good...

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I think this looks good!

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I dropped some Nitrate test solution on it and it doesn't react.

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I am interested to know how this works for you please keep us informed!

Another idea is stones fed to chickens. They call it chicken grit. A good farm supply store will sell it. Chickens eat small stones when given a chance because they aid in their digestion. I have never tried it myself but there are reports on this forum of folks having good luck with it and it is exceptionally cheap. If you decide the pea gravel is a no go then you could try this as another option.

It is also possible to go finer than the grit used in your posted tank and just use straight sand. Something like play sand works well. Lots of folks use this as their substrate of choice. You need to gravel vac it differently but it grows plants just fine.

No matter what you will want substrate supports (purchased or home made) for the hills.
I will keep you guys posted for sure

Regarding vacuuming the substrate, I don't think this will be possible at all for me since it's going to be carpeted with Dwarf Hairgrass.

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Have you considered SafeTsorb? It has the high CEC ratio you said you were looking for, and is cheap: >$7 for 40 lbs at Tractor Supply or Harbor Freight. I'm using it in my new tank, and like it a lot--as do my plants

Bump: Have you considered SafeTsorb? It has the high CEC ratio you said you were looking for, and is cheap: >$7 for 40 lbs at Tractor Supply or Harbor Freight. I'm using it in my new tank, and like it a lot--as do my plants

Bump: Have you considered SafeTsorb? It has the high CEC ratio you said you were looking for, and is cheap: >$7 for 40 lbs at Tractor Supply or Harbor Freight. I'm using it in my new tank, and like it a lot--as do my plants
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Have you considered SafeTsorb? It has the high CEC ratio you said you were looking for, and is cheap: >$7 for 40 lbs at Tractor Supply or Harbor Freight. I'm using it in my new tank, and like it a lot--as do my plants

Bump: Have you considered SafeTsorb? It has the high CEC ratio you said you were looking for, and is cheap: >$7 for 40 lbs at Tractor Supply or Harbor Freight. I'm using it in my new tank, and like it a lot--as do my plants

Bump: Have you considered SafeTsorb? It has the high CEC ratio you said you were looking for, and is cheap: >$7 for 40 lbs at Tractor Supply or Harbor Freight. I'm using it in my new tank, and like it a lot--as do my plants
Can you show me a picture of how it looks like? Color, texture, grain size?

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Can you show me a picture of how it looks like? Color, texture, grain size?

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There is also turface which is also calcined clay.

You lay down clay/saftsorb, lightly pepper it with some coco peat for hint of organic matter as you build it up, keeping it pulled away from outside glass so you don’t see it. 1/2” thick at low areas, deeper for higher. Then you cap it all with sand. Use some cheap clear corrugated plastic and pvc cement if you need to build retainer walls.

Like this you don’t see anything but sand. It will give a nice long lived substrate. I would pre-soak clay in mild fert/nutrient solution for couple days ahead of time. Then any future water column dosing will keep it up if tank circulation is setup properly.

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Mesh 30 is finer then is ideal but it will work to grow plants. People use pool filter sand and play sound quite often and get good results. There are a LOT of options available to you. If you like the sand you bought then your done. You can dress it up as others say or use other options entirely.
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Mesh 30 is finer then is ideal but it will work to grow plants. People use pool filter sand and play sound quite often and get good results. There are a LOT of options available to you. If you like the sand you bought then your done. You can dress it up as others say or use other options entirely.
So, I found a company down in San Carlos that sells 2/16 mesh Cemex sand for about 16$ for 100lb bag.
I think 2/16 should be pretty much perfect grains size for plants.
I need to plan a ride to San Carlos since it's about 130 miles away from Sacramento...
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It's Ok, I will figure it out.

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