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Radion xr30w

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This might sound strange.....but apparently it isn't something new. I stumbled upon others who have been using this radion for the planted tank.Aquascaping with a shallow aquarium | Features | Practical Fishkeeping and here Ecotech Marine Radion XR30w Pro -- Guitarfish
So the question arises why not.
Given the Radions exceptional controllability and power its seems to be feasible.
Using this radion par calculator AquaticLog EcoTech Radion PAR Calculatoreven at using just the whites, red, green, and a bit of blue, as indicated in the first article the power is astounding. I also think that the colour is exceptional.
Aside from price what am I missing. By the way I have a big foot print to cover 60 inches long by 36 inches wide.....why did I buy such a big tank.


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David, I wrote the article in the Guitarfish link you referenced. The Radion gives a ton of features and PAR. I get some of the reddest purples/reds in the tank with the Radion than any of the other tanks I keep.

That said, there are some notable drawbacks:

1. Spotlight: Since the Radion is a puck-based LED fixture, the areas directly under the light are very well lit, but the intensity drops off significantly as you move outward from the center. Unless all your scapes are center mounds, I'd recommend 1 fixture for every 24" of width of tank.

2. Color: To help compensate for the above, I find myself wanting to maximize PAR output. In order to achieve this, I have to add more blue light than I really want to. This results in much less pleasing color casting.

3. Fan / hanging: Not necessarily a drawback, but you do need to mount this light overhead, and note that it does have a fan. It's not super loud, but it does collect dust and any mechanical parts like this will wear out over time.

4. Computer control: While the flexibility is nice, without the extra accessory, you have a physically connect a laptop via USB. For things like daylight savings changes, it's far easier to do that twice a year on my other fixtures, than to fire up the laptop, connect, reinstall the radion software, etc...

For me, for the same money (or less), I've leaned toward BuildMyLED fixtures with a controller. It address the issues I list above, produces tons of light, and still has a decent amount of functionality with the controller. Of course, much of the above is circumstance and preference, so YMMV.

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Wow pretty cool article.....neat that you wrote it. Really $1000 to cover 2 foot squared yikes! Yup I would need 4......not going to happen!


Ive had bad luck with BML not going there again.


Ok back to research.


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https://www.reefbreeders.com/shop/photon-48-w/

48" or 60" w/ a custom spectrum is about the cheapest high power full functional lighting you will ever need

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I did contact them and they suggested that I needed two fixtures for coverage. I was surprised that one wouldn't be sufficient.


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I did contact them and they suggested that I needed two fixtures for coverage. I was surprised that one wouldn't be sufficient.


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Which did you contact?
As far as the Radions go.. the xr-30 is really reef centric as to spectrum..lots of wasted LED's really..





Though it is a personal choice, I find nothing really appealing about that color tank..

a bunch of FW 15's are better..

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/12...p-journal.html

note the wall splash color..

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Oh I. Was referring to reef breeders saying that I would need two fixtures.......is there any available par data for the xr15fw?

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Oh I. Was referring to reef breeders saying that I would need two fixtures.......is there any available par data for the xr15fw?

Thanks david
you will need 2 w/ any light since you are 3ft wide..


Actually w/ the Refbreeders you would get about full coverage at hanging the RB 12'- 18" above the water line..
i don't think Logan really "knows" fw..

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Yeah I think that he.was.thinking reef too.......btw are there any par values for.the xr15fw?

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Yeah I think that he.was.thinking reef too.......btw are there any par values for.the xr15fw?

Thanks dave
It won't be sig. different than a reef version..

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It won't be sig. different than a reef version..
Good to know Jeff I think the xr15 comes in at about 825? Just below the light.....so the fw version should be adequate. I put in a request with ecotech inquiring about par levels and adequate coverage for my tank. Will share the findings here. The Radions are about $100 less each than my Kessils are on my 125......The Kessils have great spread but I'm not too fussy on their colour and lack of tunability ......ah no pun intended! 😊Oh BTW I trolled and found an old posting about you and Kessils.....
Really made.me laugh 😂

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you are welcome.. just remember though it is just an opinion..

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Ok received contact back from Ecotech and they suggested that I use the xr30wpro!


I then informed them once again that this was a planted aquarium and not a reef. I thought the term planted aquarium in my first email would have sufficed. They said that due to the size of my tank that they would suggest that I not use the xr15fw but use two xr'30 instead. They also said that the spectrums would be suitable. Yup reef centric that is for sure.
They ignored the request for par data on the xr15fw and the suggestion as to how many units to use.


Emailed them again very nicely asking for answers to the questions I had asked.


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Bump: Ok received contact back from Ecotech and they suggested that I use the xr30wpro!


I then informed them once again that this was a planted aquarium and not a reef. I thought the term planted aquarium in my first email would have sufficed. They said that due to the size of my tank that they would suggest that I not use the xr15fw but use two xr'30 instead. They also said that the spectrums would be suitable. Yup reef centric that is for sure.
They ignored the request for par data on the xr15fw and the suggestion as to how many units to use.


Emailed them again very nicely asking for answers to the questions I had asked.


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David,

We do not have PAR ratings for XR15FW Radions.

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David, another user on this forum posted some PAR measurements for the XR15FW.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=863033

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