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I wonder if a 6 bulb combo not in terms of power but more bulbs opens up doors to create more aesthetically pleasing view. It's way too much power as my next layout doesn't have stem plants. Could dim it with something like this but just use the 6 bulbs for a nicer spectrum?

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Not sure if it works with the heat my ati sunpower unit generates. Maybe I could stick it between the transparant protection panel and the fixture so it's on the outside and not directly against the bulbs... Did anyone every try to dim their t5 without being able to dim on the unit itself?

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So in short lol... have to buy bulbs and just 'try'. However which bulbs are worth a try for my goal so I don't buy ones that will never be used maybe... What in your opinion should I add to my bulb collection to try?



My goals for next layout and t5 bulb combo

  • Different shades of green plants / moss
  • Make colors of Bucephalandra pop (greenish / blueish)
  • Simulans fish
  • No yellow tint but I don't mind a blueish tint, like that actually like ADA RGB Solar makes the green really pop and the walls are blueish.
Your goals don't line up together very well. The green pop and blueish tint of a signature ADA light generally makes most greens the same colour. If your looking for this I'd try an ATI aquablue special or similar (white/blue) combo reef bulbs. This will have to be mixed with something warmer to tone it down though, possibly 3000k/6500k.

And yes....we probably all have a stash of t5 bulbs we don't use. That elusive perfect look might not actually exist but we sure try.
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Your goals don't line up together very well. The green pop and blueish tint of a signature ADA light generally makes most greens the same colour. If your looking for this I'd try an ATI aquablue special or similar (white/blue) combo reef bulbs. This will have to be mixed with something warmer to tone it down though, possibly 3000k/6500k.

And yes....we probably all have a stash of t5 bulbs we don't use. That elusive perfect look might not actually exist but we sure try.

Thanks for the recommendation I try that bulb in the mix. Well just wanted to give a reference of the ADA RGB Solar. I mainly bought the t5 unit because it's very nice if I want to create colorful layouts. Now I just have to find out a bulb mix that would make me satisfied with a greenish plant layout. Then I could easily swap some bulbs depending on the plants I choose.

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Thanks for the recommendation I try that bulb in the mix. Well just wanted to give a reference of the ADA RGB Solar. I mainly bought the t5 unit because it's very nice if I want to create colorful layouts. Now I just have to find out a bulb mix that would make me satisfied with a greenish plant layout. Then I could easily swap some bulbs depending on the plants I choose.
Here is an old photo using all ATI aquablue special bulbs for reference. This was temporary until new bulbs were purchased.
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A while back we were discussing the difference between the powerveg 660 and the agromax pure bloom.
@burr740 i know you were one of the people who have run both the 660 and the pure bloom. I am curious, now that it has been almost a year of running a the pure bloom how you feel about each of the bulbs.
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A while back we were discussing the difference between the powerveg 660 and the agromax pure bloom.
@burr740 i know you were one of the people who have run both the 660 and the pure bloom. I am curious, now that it has been almost a year of running a the pure bloom how you feel about each of the bulbs.
Hey you forgot to mention a possible group buy!

If anyone is interested in stocking up on some Powerveg 660's, PM me.

They are getting hard to find, and I trying to work out buying a case.
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A while back we were discussing the difference between the powerveg 660 and the agromax pure bloom.
@burr740 i know you were one of the people who have run both the 660 and the pure bloom. I am curious, now that it has been almost a year of running a the pure bloom how you feel about each of the bulbs.

Whats up G? yeah I like the pure bloom, its not quite as red as the pv, and I feel like it's lost a little red after about a year but I could be imagining that. Its a good bulb

I like their Pure Par too. Its about like ATI purple color-wise, it's a little less bright though.

For the money you cant beat them. I'll be using more in the future Im sure
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Whats up G? yeah I like the pure bloom, its not quite as red as the pv, and I feel like it's lost a little red after about a year but I could be imagining that. Its a good bulb

I like their Pure Par too. Its about like ATI purple color-wise, it's a little less bright though.

For the money you cant beat them. I'll be using more in the future Im sure
Good to know! I still do want to try a 660 out if Gregg is able to procure them. Overall I think I have found a good setup, but as we all know, that is subject to change during a long, cold winter!

Hmm... wonder if I can fit another sunblaster single fixture under my hood....
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I'd be in on a pair but I'm also in Ontario like @Hendy8888

I'll be part of the 4' club here shortly

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I'd be in on a pair but I'm also in Ontario like @Hendy8888



I'll be part of the 4' club here shortly
Check out growlights.ca they have Fusion Bright 420nm, 460nm, 620nm, 660nm bulbs for $14.99 cdn and pretty cheap shipping if I remember correctly. Not PowerVeg's but I'm happy with mine.
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Check out growlights.ca they have Fusion Bright 420nm, 460nm, 620nm, 660nm bulbs for $14.99 cdn and pretty cheap shipping if I remember correctly. Not PowerVeg's but I'm happy with mine.
I've already got a link saved to that website

I was going to ask if you've used them / how you like them before I ordered anything, but that answers that!
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Check out growlights.ca they have Fusion Bright 420nm, 460nm, 620nm, 660nm bulbs for $14.99 cdn and pretty cheap shipping if I remember correctly. Not PowerVeg's but I'm happy with mine.
I was just searching around for red bulbs and ran across the Growlight Real Red. Is this the one? If so, color graph looks more like 633 than 660? Or are the ones you mentioned something different?

https://growlite.com/content/pdf/spe...T5HO-24-54.pdf
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I was just searching around for red bulbs and ran across the Growlight Real Red. Is this the one? If so, color graph looks more like 633 than 660? Or are the ones you mentioned something different?



https://growlite.com/content/pdf/spe...T5HO-24-54.pdf
Here are the ones I have, as far as I can tell they are knock-off powerveg bulbs. I have never run a powerveg so can't compare but the marketing comes off as such, they even have a fs+uv.

The 660 is a bit deeper red to the eye vs the 620. I don't know if you can trust the graphs but it's what they give.
https://www.growlights.ca/4ft-t5-ho-...0nm-660nm.html


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Here are the ones I have, as far as I can tell they are knock-off powerveg bulbs. I have never run a powerveg so can't compare but the marketing comes off as such, they even have a fs+uv.

The 660 is a bit deeper red to the eye vs the 620. I don't know if you can trust the graphs but it's what they give.
https://www.growlights.ca/4ft-t5-ho-...0nm-660nm.html
Interesting that they spike to 630 w/ IR emitting phosphors.
General "what the colors do"
https://www.cannagardening.com/effec...nt_development


Not sure FR works the same way in aquatics since their world is err turned upside down..
Red being filtered out rapidly means plants seeing little red are technically "shaded".
Opposite of terrestrials.
Many effects are similar though

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Interesting that they spike to 630 w/ IR emitting phosphors.
General "what the colors do"
https://www.cannagardening.com/effec...nt_development


Not sure FR works the same way in aquatics since their world is err turned upside down..
Red being filtered out rapidly means plants seeing little red are technically "shaded".
Opposite of terrestrials.
Many effects are similar though
Thanks for the link, I always enjoy when you share your lighting knowledge LED or otherwise, it's greatly appreciated.


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