How do you build a sump?

Symian · 04-07-2004, 08:44 AM

Maybe I have this backwards in my head, but I'm confused. The sumps I've seen have been below the tank, and I've never had a chance to examine a setup, so I don't know how it works. It seems to me that being that the sump is below the tank that gravity would draw the water out of the tank and into the sump unless the sump is sealed. How does this work? Does anyone have a link describing contruction? Thanks again.

Ryan

urbanspectrum · 04-07-2004, 01:50 PM

1st you need an over flow basket, this pulls the water out of the tank to the sump, (the over flow basket also has a pre-filter on it). after the water passes through the overflow basket it falls into the sump, inside the sump you can keep other types of filter media, and your heaters plus your protein skimmer. after the water passes through the filters and protein skimmer it is pushed back to the tank by a water pump.
I hope this helps :lol:

Symian · 04-09-2004, 06:01 AM

When would the Reverse Osmosis filtration come into the equasion?

Ryan

cich · 04-09-2004, 06:03 AM

You mean in the sump? Never. You only would use it to filter tap-water for water-changes.

Symian · 04-09-2004, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cich

You mean in the sump? Never. You only would use it to filter tap-water for water-changes.

Ok. Yeah, that's what I thought, but didn't know. Just trying to get this all lined out in my head. Thanks.

Ryan

SCMurphy · 04-09-2004, 11:42 AM

You might swing over two the forum at ReefCentral and look how the pro's set up sumps. Refers love to play with PVC, I think it's the solvents.

urbanspectrum · 04-09-2004, 12:30 PM

all the fumes make my head feel funnnnnnnnnyyyyy. boy I think I need to sit down for a few

DennisRB · 04-13-2004, 03:36 PM

Do some people use protein skimmers in planted tanks?

SCMurphy · 04-13-2004, 03:51 PM

The specific gravity of freshwater makes a protein skimmer close to useless in a planted tank. You get better results from your water changes.

DennisRB · 04-14-2004, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCMurphy

The specific gravity of freshwater makes a protein skimmer close to useless in a planted tank. You get better results from your water changes.

I thought so. I was just curious why skimmers were being mentioned in this thread.

Anyhow. This thread is about sumps so here are some pics of the one I am setting of for a reef tank.

Water flows over the weirs and down the standpipe into the sump, it gets pumped back into the the tank via a hose and the white pipe with the outlets.

here is the sump

the sump is a standard 4 foot tank.

compulsion · 04-14-2004, 09:09 PM

jeez sumps look so god-damn cool.

gnatster · 04-15-2004, 12:13 AM

Slighty oversized sump for upcoming planted 120

Parts and Pieces to be screwed and glued

The more glue the odder the plumbing design.

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gnatster

04-07-2004, 01:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
urbanspectrum Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ann Arbor; MI Posts: 56	1st you need an over flow basket, this pulls the water out of the tank to the sump, (the over flow basket also has a pre-filter on it). after the water passes through the overflow basket it falls into the sump, inside the sump you can keep other types of filter media, and your heaters plus your protein skimmer. after the water passes through the filters and protein skimmer it is pushed back to the tank by a water pump. I hope this helps :lol: __________________ I PooPed my Self

04-09-2004, 11:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
SCMurphy PT Biologist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 3,091	You might swing over two the forum at ReefCentral and look how the pro's set up sumps. Refers love to play with PVC, I think it's the solvents. __________________ Sean Aquascape? I'm a crypt farmer. It's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. That IS an aquascape, it's titled "The Vacant Lot".

04-09-2004, 12:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
urbanspectrum Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ann Arbor; MI Posts: 56	all the fumes make my head feel funnnnnnnnnyyyyy. boy I think I need to sit down for a few __________________ I PooPed my Self

04-13-2004, 03:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
SCMurphy PT Biologist (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 3,091	The specific gravity of freshwater makes a protein skimmer close to useless in a planted tank. You get better results from your water changes. __________________ Sean Aquascape? I'm a crypt farmer. It's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. That IS an aquascape, it's titled "The Vacant Lot".

04-14-2004, 09:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
compulsion Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 524	jeez sumps look so god-damn cool. __________________ 55US Gallon Medium Planted \| 36x15x24Tall PH 7.0 - 7.2 GH 11 Ehiem 2232 Thermo 2.7WPG 160W 10,000k 5xNO T8's Sand+Eco Clay, CSM+B Baby Steps + Pres.Co2

04-07-2004, 08:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Symian Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 11	Maybe I have this backwards in my head, but I'm confused. The sumps I've seen have been below the tank, and I've never had a chance to examine a setup, so I don't know how it works. It seems to me that being that the sump is below the tank that gravity would draw the water out of the tank and into the sump unless the sump is sealed. How does this work? Does anyone have a link describing contruction? Thanks again. Ryan

04-09-2004, 06:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Symian Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 11	When would the Reverse Osmosis filtration come into the equasion? Ryan

04-09-2004, 06:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
cich Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada Posts: 1,058	You mean in the sump? Never. You only would use it to filter tap-water for water-changes.

04-13-2004, 03:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
DennisRB Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 13	Do some people use protein skimmers in planted tanks?

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gnatster Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 488	Slighty oversized sump for upcoming planted 120 Parts and Pieces to be screwed and glued The more glue the odder the plumbing design. ----- gnatster

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