Can you inject Co2 into a vivarium?

[2technical]

Hello All,

Im going to be setting up a 10g Vivarium soon and had a few question.

-First one is, can you inject Co2 into a vivarium?

-Second question, is there a lot of different kinds of plants that can go inside of a vivarium?

-Third one is, can you grow normal plants inside of a vivarium?

I mean isn't the whole idea to create a imatation rain forest? Last but not least, does anyone have any good article's on vivarium's.

[Spar]

yes you can. will actually excel plant growth in a vivarium just as a planted tank. I know the guys at Aquatic Design Group inject their vivariums/paludariums with co2. just be careful as to not suffocate your tank dwellers.

there are many many many plants that will grow very well in a vivarium. too many to specify, but really anything that likes moist/humid surroundings will flourish.

here is my vivarium (110g):

[2technical]

Originally Posted by Spar

yes you can. will actually excel plant growth in a vivarium just as a planted tank. I know the guys at Aquatic Design Group inject their vivariums/paludariums with co2. just be careful as to not suffocate your tank dwellers.

there are many many many plants that will grow very well in a vivarium. too many to specify, but really anything that likes moist/humid surroundings will flourish.

here is my vivarium (110g):

WoW, that's really beautiful. WOW. Oh yeah thanks for the reply. WoW, that's a really nice setup.

[Steven_Chong]

Is there really a need? I mean, air has way more CO2 than water right?

-the main limit on vivarium plants is making sure you have ones that you can keep at the right size. No point in having an orchid or pitcher plant that'll just out-grow the tank. Mosses are good base plants, aquatically, semi aquatically and terrestrially. Another one I'd think of is bacopa-- grows stems under-out of water, and terrestrially forms nice, dense mats. Easy to keep small with trimming too.

[Spar]

Originally Posted by greenmiddlefinger

Is there really a need? I mean, air has way more CO2 than water right?

-the main limit on vivarium plants is making sure you have ones that you can keep at the right size. No point in having an orchid or pitcher plant that'll just out-grow the tank. Mosses are good base plants, aquatically, semi aquatically and terrestrially. Another one I'd think of is bacopa-- grows stems under-out of water, and terrestrially forms nice, dense mats. Easy to keep small with trimming too.

atmospheric level of co2 in the air is only 3ppm co2. i little injection, as is done in green-houses, will add to co2 concentration just as injecting into water does.

I agree though that it is not *necessary*. My plants and moss grow unbelieveable in my tank wihtout co2 injection. The reason I won't attempt co2 injection is that I dont want to risk killing my Darts.

[2technical]

So do you think the 25-30 ppm rule applys to a vivarium the same way it does to a tank. Or to play it safe go for 10-15 ppms. I don't think I'm going to have any animals right away. So i don't have to worry about killing anything. I'm new to this whole thing, so i want to test out the waters before i swim out to the deep blue. Yeh know. Hell if i like it enough i might use my 80 gallon that i plan on buying and turning it into one.

[Spar]

best advice I can give is to just be careful and go very very slow.

*if* you do try it, please post results

I will contact the Aquarium Design Group guys this weekend to find out what ppm (if even measureable by them) they use.

by the way, they pump the co2 up the fogger line (using an external ultra-sonic fogger). seems to be the most effective way as long as the output is down low in the vivarium.

[2technical]

I will do so. Im just gathering information right now. Im using the 10g right now, until i get all the stuff for the vivarium. As soon as i start it thought, i will keep you updated on it. I wish i could set up a bigger tank, a 10g just seems so small.

[Spar]

ya, hard to plant well in a 10g. i just bought my 2nd Vivarium last week (comes in sometime in the next couple weeks).

had originally set forth for a 10g-hex but just couldn't imagine how to plant it, so upgraded to a 17g-hex. will still be tough, but even a few inches helps.

good luck with it!

if you need pointers on how to plant it well and have runnign water, etc, let me know. otherwise, check out DendroBoard forum. It is a Dart Frog forum, but many specialize in Vivarium construction.

www.dendroboard.com