40 Breeder tank journal (56k warning)

justincgdick · 06-02-2004, 12:36 AM

Well I'm about to set up my second planted tank. It is a 40 gallon breeder. The tank cost me $130 all together. The tank, glass top and heater were $70 and the filter was about $60. This is Canadian not US dollars.

Specs so far:
AC300
Playsand substrate
300 watt heater (hey, it was ten bucks)

Here are some pics (I haven't scrubbed down the tank yet)
http://www.zippyimages.com/58793.html
http://www.zippyimages.com/58795.html

I was very fortunate to get the tank so cheap. Also, the back was already painted that blue color.

I will be updating this journal as the tank progresses.

Justin

Overfloater · 06-02-2004, 02:39 AM

I have a 40G breeder and I love it. I will be setting it back up tomorrow after having moved from Upstate NY to Florida. The width is superb for layering plants. I'll be watching your thread.

justincgdick · 06-02-2004, 08:00 PM

Well thanks for that.

Now for my first question. I got this tank from a pet store, used. I have to wash off the old algae and buildup that has hardened on. Will water and vinagar to the job?

Rosko_22 · 06-02-2004, 10:30 PM

I don't know about vinegar, when I cleaned out a used 20 gal I just used a rag, warm water and a LOT of hard scrubbing.
Good price by the way.

FiberCon · 06-02-2004, 11:15 PM

Vinegar will be fine for cleaning the tank. I've used it on several tanks to help get rid of hard water deposits.

Just be sure to rinse afterwards with alot of hot water until you no longer smell any of the vinegar. Let it try, smell it again, wash it out again.

Rinse, repeat.

justincgdick · 06-03-2004, 02:13 AM

Well I cleaned it out and it looks quite good. The vinegar was quite diluted so I couldn't smell it much in the first place. That darn sword on the tank was painted on so I had to scrape it off with a razor.

My local fish club is doing a bulk order from some place in the us. I ordered 20 cardinal tetras for this tank at 65 cents each. I might also get a nice pleco such as a gold nugget pleco. They are only like 12 bucks or something.

justincgdick · 06-08-2004, 01:23 AM

Okay. I have the whole tank up. It's been up for 72 hours. I had to do 2 100% water changes to get rid of the dust from the sand. I even washed it before it went in the tank. Then I planted it with the low light plants from my 20 gallon. It's still bare but I'm gonna fill it up. I should be recieving my school of 20 cardinal tetras soon.

I have a little question. I am going to have no co2 on this tank so I was wondering what light levels would be the best. Right now I have 60 watts but I was gonna slap another 40 on for 100 watts of pretty scattered light (shoplights, no reflectors, lights from 40 watt will over hang one foot). Also, what plant species should I stick to? I was thinking anubias, crypts, maybe a sword plant and any others?

Overfloater · 06-08-2004, 01:42 AM

100W without CO2 should be fine. It will allow you to grow medium light plants and keep algae to a minimum. Anubias, Crypts, Echinodorus, and Vals will be OK. Post some pics!

justincgdick · 06-08-2004, 01:59 AM

It's amazing. When there is no moving fish the camera takes nice pictures. Hehe.

If anyone can help Identify the plants that would be awesome. I know the name of only a few.

Overfloater · 06-08-2004, 02:42 AM

None of your pics are working. It opens a new browser window with a blank page.

amanda huggenkiss · 06-08-2004, 03:35 AM

They're not working for me either. I tried downloading them and opening them, but I got an error message that the jpeg marker is incomplete...

Bert H · 06-08-2004, 06:00 PM

Ditto here, no pics.

justincgdick · 06-08-2004, 10:24 PM

Oh crap. They work for me. Hmm.

justincgdick · 06-12-2004, 02:02 AM

Okay I'm gonna try to put the pics up again. Hopefully they work.

Right side
http://www.zippyimages.com/63720.html

Left Side
http://www.zippyimages.com/63722.html

Another of the left side
http://www.zippyimages.com/63723.html

My baby java's that don't grow or die
http://www.zippyimages.com/63724.html

Tell me what you think. This is when the tank was up for about 48 hours
Sorry about the large size of the images. I have to figure out how to fix this.

justincgdick · 06-12-2004, 02:06 AM

Update.

With my local fish club I am taking part in a bulk order. To stock my tank I am getting 20 cardinal tetras and one gold nugget pleco: L-18 for approx. $28.99 Can. They are also wild caught.

I think this will be all the occupants of this tank. I think the colors of the fish will look awesome. Very bright. And I love the price. The only place around here to get the gold nugget plecos from breeds them and they are nearly $100 a piece cause he also has to ship or drive them down to you.

Any comments?

06-02-2004, 12:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	40 Breeder tank journal (56k warning) Well I'm about to set up my second planted tank. It is a 40 gallon breeder. The tank cost me $130 all together. The tank, glass top and heater were $70 and the filter was about $60. This is Canadian not US dollars. Specs so far: AC300 Playsand substrate 300 watt heater (hey, it was ten bucks) Here are some pics (I haven't scrubbed down the tank yet) http://www.zippyimages.com/58793.html http://www.zippyimages.com/58795.html I was very fortunate to get the tank so cheap. Also, the back was already painted that blue color. I will be updating this journal as the tank progresses. Justin __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

06-02-2004, 02:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
Overfloater Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (40) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,374	I have a 40G breeder and I love it. I will be setting it back up tomorrow after having moved from Upstate NY to Florida. The width is superb for layering plants. I'll be watching your thread. __________________ Robert Los Dios De Verde ARAOK stop the kindness

06-02-2004, 08:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	Well thanks for that. Now for my first question. I got this tank from a pet store, used. I have to wash off the old algae and buildup that has hardened on. Will water and vinagar to the job? __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

06-03-2004, 02:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	Well I cleaned it out and it looks quite good. The vinegar was quite diluted so I couldn't smell it much in the first place. That darn sword on the tank was painted on so I had to scrape it off with a razor. My local fish club is doing a bulk order from some place in the us. I ordered 20 cardinal tetras for this tank at 65 cents each. I might also get a nice pleco such as a gold nugget pleco. They are only like 12 bucks or something. __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

06-08-2004, 01:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	Okay. I have the whole tank up. It's been up for 72 hours. I had to do 2 100% water changes to get rid of the dust from the sand. I even washed it before it went in the tank. Then I planted it with the low light plants from my 20 gallon. It's still bare but I'm gonna fill it up. I should be recieving my school of 20 cardinal tetras soon. I have a little question. I am going to have no co2 on this tank so I was wondering what light levels would be the best. Right now I have 60 watts but I was gonna slap another 40 on for 100 watts of pretty scattered light (shoplights, no reflectors, lights from 40 watt will over hang one foot). Also, what plant species should I stick to? I was thinking anubias, crypts, maybe a sword plant and any others? __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

06-02-2004, 10:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rosko_22 Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 225	I don't know about vinegar, when I cleaned out a used 20 gal I just used a rag, warm water and a LOT of hard scrubbing. Good price by the way.

06-02-2004, 11:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
FiberCon Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 174	Vinegar will be fine for cleaning the tank. I've used it on several tanks to help get rid of hard water deposits. Just be sure to rinse afterwards with alot of hot water until you no longer smell any of the vinegar. Let it try, smell it again, wash it out again. Rinse, repeat.

06-08-2004, 01:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Overfloater Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (40) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,374	100W without CO2 should be fine. It will allow you to grow medium light plants and keep algae to a minimum. Anubias, Crypts, Echinodorus, and Vals will be OK. Post some pics! __________________ Robert Los Dios De Verde ARAOK stop the kindness

06-08-2004, 01:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	It's amazing. When there is no moving fish the camera takes nice pictures. Hehe. If anyone can help Identify the plants that would be awesome. I know the name of only a few. __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

06-08-2004, 02:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
Overfloater Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (40) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,374	None of your pics are working. It opens a new browser window with a blank page. __________________ Robert Los Dios De Verde ARAOK stop the kindness

06-08-2004, 03:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
amanda huggenkiss Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 955	They're not working for me either. I tried downloading them and opening them, but I got an error message that the jpeg marker is incomplete... __________________ 29g Eheim Classic 2213, community, heavily planted, 65W CF, 2x Hagen CO2 20g Fluval 3 Plus, nothin' but shrimp & snails, 65W CF, Hagen CO2 wannacomewith.com

06-08-2004, 06:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bert H Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (26) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alachua, Fl Posts: 674	Ditto here, no pics.

06-08-2004, 10:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	Oh crap. They work for me. Hmm. __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

06-12-2004, 02:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	Okay I'm gonna try to put the pics up again. Hopefully they work. Right side http://www.zippyimages.com/63720.html Left Side http://www.zippyimages.com/63722.html Another of the left side http://www.zippyimages.com/63723.html My baby java's that don't grow or die http://www.zippyimages.com/63724.html Tell me what you think. This is when the tank was up for about 48 hours Sorry about the large size of the images. I have to figure out how to fix this. __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

06-12-2004, 02:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
justincgdick Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 334	Update. With my local fish club I am taking part in a bulk order. To stock my tank I am getting 20 cardinal tetras and one gold nugget pleco: L-18 for approx. $28.99 Can. They are also wild caught. I think this will be all the occupants of this tank. I think the colors of the fish will look awesome. Very bright. And I love the price. The only place around here to get the gold nugget plecos from breeds them and they are nearly $100 a piece cause he also has to ship or drive them down to you. Any comments? __________________ 45 Gallon Long Planted --> working towards high tech

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