ADA 90P journal (updated with new pictures 8-30-08)

@marko@ · 07-22-2008, 12:36 PM

algae is caused by imblance; so wether 1 nutrient (say, phosphates) is too high, or everything else is too little is a point of view. like a cup half empty or half full.

ColeMan · 07-22-2008, 03:01 PM

yeah, rick. Hate to tell you, but I think you're going to have to think outside the realm of ADA dogma and do a bit of trial and error dosing; maybe an extra pump here or fewer squirts there...you have to remember that you're dealing with a living system here, and it just doesn't stand to reason that all tanks (even if you are using the same components in each) will thrive by following a rigid schedule. Life isn't like that, it's not textbook, and I'd argue this point with anyone. I would suspect, also, that Jeff-nor any other die-hard, intelligent ADA devotee-wouldn't be so naive to suggest this was the case. I mean, most of us are familiar with the sometimes extreme difference between bags of aquasoil, and this one factor alone would greatly influence the maturation rate of a tank. Use your brain, and good things will happen.

**eyebeatbadgers** · 07-23-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @marko@

algae is caused by imblance; so wether 1 nutrient (say, phosphates) is too high, or everything else is too little is a point of view. like a cup half empty or half full.

Nutrients being in shortage is not a point of view, it's just a lacking of a nutrient. If the plant's growth is limited by nitrogen levels, you'll get algae, because there was not enough nitrogen available. If the OP doubled his phosphate level, or tripled it, there would be no algae unless it spurred the growth of the plants, and made another nutrient deficient. If I went to my tank and increased the ppm of Phosphate to 4 or 5 ppm, the "ratio" of fertilizers would be off, but the because there is plenty of nitrogen, potassium, and carbon available, no algae would form. Ideally, you want the limiting factor of plant growth to be light, which is why I recommended moving the light fixture up a bit for a while until the OP gets things down pat.

@marko@ · 07-23-2008, 12:54 PM

thats not how i meant it. i meant, if your N is 5, your tank can do fine; if your N is 10, your tank can do fine. but you will need different levels of your other nutrients, so the plants have a good proportion of availablitly of each.

08-13-2008, 12:29 AM

Here are some new pictures - things are coming along very nicely.

mott · 08-13-2008, 02:23 AM

Looks fantastic I love it!

CL · 08-13-2008, 03:37 AM

Wow, that looks great

jcardona1 · 08-13-2008, 03:50 AM

just read this whole thread, looks great!!!

08-13-2008, 03:59 AM

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I have a small issue with bba, but everything else is going well. Thanks so much!

mizu-chan · 08-13-2008, 04:40 AM

Amazing tank

gmccreedy · 08-13-2008, 12:49 PM

You can try spot treating the BBA with H2O2.

Tank looks good.

ikuzo · 08-14-2008, 04:30 AM

great rock formation. can't wait to see it filled in.

08-31-2008, 05:26 AM

Well here are some of the newest pictures - it is filling in REAL nice. Almost all complete.

My allege is under control - and things are looking nice. I am really happy with how this tank is turning out.

Hope you enjoy!

scherzo · 08-31-2008, 05:48 AM

wow ..looks great.. great work!

mizu-chan · 08-31-2008, 06:03 AM

Ahh, I'm in love with this tank.

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@marko@ Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (7/100%) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: livingston, nj Posts: 3,623	thats not how i meant it. i meant, if your N is 5, your tank can do fine; if your N is 10, your tank can do fine. but you will need different levels of your other nutrients, so the plants have a good proportion of availablitly of each. __________________ Eheim Pimp #296 Eheim Ecco 2232 (x2), Eheim Ecco 2234 (x1) please grow my hatchling (click on it):

08-13-2008, 12:29 AM	#170 (permalink)
rick4him Guest Posts: n/a	Here are some new pictures - things are coming along very nicely. Attached Thumbnails

08-13-2008, 02:23 AM	#171 (permalink)
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07-22-2008, 03:01 PM	#167 (permalink)
ColeMan Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (14/100%) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,736	yeah, rick. Hate to tell you, but I think you're going to have to think outside the realm of ADA dogma and do a bit of trial and error dosing; maybe an extra pump here or fewer squirts there...you have to remember that you're dealing with a living system here, and it just doesn't stand to reason that all tanks (even if you are using the same components in each) will thrive by following a rigid schedule. Life isn't like that, it's not textbook, and I'd argue this point with anyone. I would suspect, also, that Jeff-nor any other die-hard, intelligent ADA devotee-wouldn't be so naive to suggest this was the case. I mean, most of us are familiar with the sometimes extreme difference between bags of aquasoil, and this one factor alone would greatly influence the maturation rate of a tank. Use your brain, and good things will happen.

08-13-2008, 03:50 AM	#173 (permalink)
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08-13-2008, 03:59 AM	#174 (permalink)
rick4him Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks everyone for the feedback. I have a small issue with bba, but everything else is going well. Thanks so much!

08-13-2008, 04:40 AM	#175 (permalink)
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08-13-2008, 12:49 PM	#176 (permalink)
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08-14-2008, 04:30 AM	#177 (permalink)
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08-31-2008, 05:26 AM	#178 (permalink)
rick4him Guest Posts: n/a	Well here are some of the newest pictures - it is filling in REAL nice. Almost all complete. My allege is under control - and things are looking nice. I am really happy with how this tank is turning out. Hope you enjoy! Attached Thumbnails

08-31-2008, 05:48 AM	#179 (permalink)
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