ADA 90P journal (updated with new pictures 8-30-08)

[eyebeatbadgers]

Have you tried bumping up the phosphate levels to get rid of the "allege" (algae)?

Originally Posted by eyebeatbadgers

Have you tried bumping up the phosphate levels to get rid of the "allege" (algae)?

No I have not.

[eyebeatbadgers]

I might allege that increasing phosphate levels could help rid of the GSA on your rocks, as would raising your lighting a bit.

Originally Posted by eyebeatbadgers

I might allege that increasing phosphate levels could help rid of the GSA on your rocks, as would raising your lighting a bit.

Well I have told by Jeff and Tom Barr that the aquisoil is supplying the phosphate's for my plants. In fact Step 1 doesn't contain any phosphate's , it doesn't come into step 2. I have also been told that the green on my rocks is normal for a while. do you not think so?

Also the lighting is where it needs to be for my tank.

I think things are filling in nicely.

[eyebeatbadgers]

Algae is normal on rocks, just like sunrises are normal in the morning. I don't have green algae on my rocks. Diatoms are pretty normal too, most new tanks go through that stage. Those do just "go away" on their own.

I did at one time have a GDA/GSA problem in my 10 gallon tank, so I doubled my phosphate level. GDA is gone, GSA is very very minimal. Just throwing an idea out, do a little research for yourself if you want the algae gone.

The aquasoil does contain phosphates, Jeff and Mr. Barr are right. Adding more won't hurt anything, except your wallet.

[bigstick120]

Originally Posted by rick4him

. In fact Step 1 doesn't contain any phosphate's , it doesn't come into step 2.

If step 1 dosent have PO4 then that is why you have algae. Not every tank is the same, but you need to add some PO4 if you want to get rid of the GSA on the rocks. Do you have hard green spots on the glass as well?

[ColeMan]

I too had GSA until I upped my phosphate dosing...you don't have to live with it, so don't. It should be easy to rid. Also, rick, things are looking good (well, except for the algae, but hey, it happens), but you need to clean your lily pipes. Dirty lilies look worse than the green eheim intakes...almost.

cutting your photoperiod may help also, if you're not wanting to have to use non-ada proscribed methodology.

Yelp - I know I do need to clean them - I am just afraid it's going to be a mess.

@bigstick120 - Yes I do have green spots on the glass. I was thinking of dosing special lights, which does have phosphate, but just not not sure how much of it to dose. Will anything eat that alega? some have said rubbernose, or bristlenose.

[roybot73]

"Green Brighty Special LIGHTS

In a layout with plants requiring much light such as Glossostigma and Riccia, the requirements for nutrients such as Nitrogen and Phosphorous are also high. Although these elements are produced from fish waste products, remnants of fish food and dead leaves of aquatic plants, they are quickly absorbed by such plants as Riccia and Glossostigma and are often in shortage. Green Brighty Special LIGHTS is a nutrient formula containing trace elements, Nitrogen, Phosphorous and Potassium for healthy growth of plants.

Use only when algae is not rampant."
http://www.adana-usa.com/index.php?m...products_id=40

"Provide 1 push (1ml) for each 5 gallons (20 liters) daily.
Adding too much Green Brighty Special LIGHTS (Nitrogen and Phosphorus) can cause algae proliferation. Do not use Green Brighty Special LIGHTS if you have an existing algae problem and temporarily discontinue use if excess algae appears right after dosing."
http://www.adgshop.com/ProductDetail...1&Show=ExtInfo


"alega?"
Algae Algae Algae

Originally Posted by roybot73

"Green Brighty Special LIGHTS (500?l)

In a layout with plants requiring much light such as Glossostigma and Riccia, the requirements for nutrients such as Nitrogen and Phosphorous are also high. Although these elements are produced from fish waste products, remnants of fish food and dead leaves of aquatic plants, they are quickly absorbed by such plants as Riccia and Glossostigma and are often in shortage. Green Brighty Special LIGHTS is a nutrient formula containing trace elements, Nitrogen, Phosphorous and Potassium for healthy growth of plants.

Use only when algae is not rampant."
http://www.adana-usa.com/index.php?m...products_id=40

"Provide 1 push (1ml) for each 5 gallons (20 liters) daily.
Adding too much Green Brighty Special LIGHTS (Nitrogen and Phosphorus) can cause algae proliferation. Do not use Green Brighty Special LIGHTS if you have an existing algae problem and temporarily discontinue use if excess algae appears right after dosing."
http://www.adgshop.com/ProductDetail...1&Show=ExtInfo


"alega?
Algae Algae Algae

All you did was copy that off the ADA website - do you not think I have read that. It says not to use when you have algae, which I have now. But people say I have it because I am not using Special Lights - which creates a paradox. Which is why I asked the question. Thanks though for your creative input.

[roybot73]

I don't think your algae is the of the "rampant" sort. Might not be a bad idea to start dosing "Sp. Lights". Just pump it in when you dose your "K" & "Step 1".

Everything seems to be filling in nicely BTW!

Originally Posted by roybot73

I don't think your algae is the of the "rampant" sort. Might not be a bad idea to start dosing "Sp. Lights". Just pump it in when you dose your "K" & "Step 1".

Everything seems to be filling in nicely BTW!

Hey thanks man! Would you suggest doing the full 9 pumps that they suggest? It seems when I do that my nitrates go REALLY high. Do you think maybe 5 pumps, or would you do the whole 5?

[roybot73]

I'd say start with the recommended dosing and observe things closely. Adjust up or down as needed...

Originally Posted by roybot73

I'd say start with the recommended dosing and observe things closely. Adjust up or down as needed...

Yah I have just been told that I shouldn't do the suggested dose until I have a fully grown in tank. Also how would I know if I need to add less? This shouldn't cause alega right?

[eyebeatbadgers]

Originally Posted by rick4him

Yah I have just been told that I shouldn't do the suggested dose until I have a fully grown in tank. Also how would I know if I need to add less? This shouldn't cause alega right?

Excess nutrients don't cause alega, allege, or algae.