roybot73. ADA 60-P. 2.1 100% Crypts

CL · 11-07-2009, 05:54 PM

Wow! Congrats on the warranty. It looks exactly like what happened to fishmans 30-C. You get a brand new tank. The new ones have thicker and clearer glass so you're kinda getting an upgrade

**ZooTycoonMaster** · 11-07-2009, 06:44 PM

Wait...what's wrong with it?

CL · 11-07-2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZooTycoonMaster

Wait...what's wrong with it?

the silicone separated from the glass

**ZooTycoonMaster** · 11-07-2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CL

the silicone separated from the glass

Ohhh. That's bad

But good thing there was a warranty!

**roybot73** · 11-10-2009, 02:20 AM

New tank should hopefully be here sometime next week.
I'll say it again - Jeff Senske is the MAN.

**roybot73** · 11-12-2009, 07:15 PM

Received tracking info last night, and the new box should be on the stand next Wednesday. That gives me plenty of time to paint the room this tank is in, scout out some more rocks, move the tank location and attach the new light hangers.

I can't wait to get this tub up and running again!

**roybot73** · 11-18-2009, 11:42 PM

New tank arrived safe and sound this afternoon

So did a nice big box from Sweet Aquatics full of Crypt species. Waiting for one more delivery from Aqua Forest tomorrow and I'm back in business!

LOTS to do in the meantime, so off I go...

Cheers!

**roybot73** · 11-19-2009, 03:25 AM

Why me?
In messing around, trying to get some things taken care of in preparation for tomorrow night's planting extravaganza, I set the new tank on the stand. Something wasn't quite right. Wouldn't line up right - if the front was flush, the sides wouldn't line up on the cabinet. If the sides were flush, the front and back were skewed. Enter the Tape Measure. That stand was built dead-nuts square. The top is completely flat.

This new tank is out of square by 3/16". One corner to corner measurement is 26-5/16", the other corner to corner is 26-1/2". I measured the old tank - perfectly square. What to do?

Well, the only solution I came up with is to buy a 2'x4' sheet of 1/4" MDF to sit on top of the cabinet and under the Garden Mat. I'll cut it just a few 16ths of an inch bigger all the way around so that the tank is resting completely on surface and not overhanging even the slightest little bit. Flat black spray paint the edges so it blends in with the Mat. I think it'll work out just fine.

I hope...

CL · 11-19-2009, 03:33 AM

Wow, how do they manage that with glass tanks that are supposed to be precisely made. I'd almost be nervous to use that considering how perfect the seams have to be. But hey, Jeff was nice enough to send you a replacement.

**roybot73** · 11-19-2009, 03:34 AM

Tanks are made in China now...
The seams all look perfect. It's the bottom plate that doesn't seem to be square.
I'll try to snap a pic of the old one next to the new one. The high-clarity glass is beautiful and it's noticeably heavier than the old one, due to the new 6mm glass. I'm assuming there will be much less deflection as well.

CL · 11-19-2009, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roybot73

Tanks are made in China now...

Yeah I know. The German made ones were nice.
But still, you know they use squares to keep everything.. square.. while they are applying silicone. How do they manage that. Who knows. I guess their squares are off.
Oh well.
annnnyyyway...

**roybot73** · 11-20-2009, 01:51 AM

Tank & cabinet leveled, substrate & additives in, hardscape complete...
Time for a break. Headed into the studio for the first time in a long time.
Planting commences tomorrow right after work.
I've got a super sweet run of pictures to post when all is complete

No teasers, no b.s.

Off to make some bleeps & beats --

Cheers!

**roybot73** · Yesterday, 07:07 PM

She's up and running.

I cut a sheet of 1/4" MDF to 3/16" bigger than the footprint of the tank to deal with the non-square issue. I was having some trouble getting the Garden Mat aligned with the MDF, cabinet and tank so I used some 3M spray adhesive to attach the mat to the board. That way, I was able to trim the mat perfectly flush to the MDF - worked great!

I guess I'll let the pictures speak for themselves. I set up a tripod about 18" in front of the tank and just snapped pics as I went along.

100% crypts, though I might add some 'belem' sp. hairgrass to the foreground.

Parva
Undulata
Moehlmannii
Pontederiifolia
Walkerii
Ideii
Petchii
Willisii green & brown var.
Crispalliata var. flaccidifolia

Aqua Medic Sun Beam 2x24W with Giesemann Powerchrome Daylight bulbs

I think that's the complete list...

Enjoy!

**ZooTycoonMaster** · Yesterday, 07:33 PM

I can't wait to see it filled in

Were you originally planning on having it 100% crypts?

**roybot73** · Yesterday, 07:50 PM

I was originally going to include some Anubias petite, but the more I thought about it, the more I liked the idea of a crypt only setup.

This one's gonna take a while

11-07-2009, 05:54 PM	#301 (permalink)
CL Aquascaper (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 6,929	Wow! Congrats on the warranty. It looks exactly like what happened to fishmans 30-C. You get a brand new tank. The new ones have thicker and clearer glass so you're kinda getting an upgrade __________________ GLA 48 Rimless \| 10 Reef \| 7.2 Rimless Cube \| 5.4 Rimless Nano \| Pimp→ GLA #1 - Victor #49 - Eheim #298

11-07-2009, 06:44 PM	#302 (permalink)
ZooTycoonMaster Just Do!(Aqua) It (View User Tanks) PTrader: (22/100%) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Clara, California Posts: 3,190	Wait...what's wrong with it? __________________ Eheim Pimp #341 Eheim Classic 2213 10 Gallon Tank

11-10-2009, 02:20 AM	#305 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	New tank should hopefully be here sometime next week. I'll say it again - Jeff Senske is the MAN. __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

11-12-2009, 07:15 PM	#306 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	Received tracking info last night, and the new box should be on the stand next Wednesday. That gives me plenty of time to paint the room this tank is in, scout out some more rocks, move the tank location and attach the new light hangers. I can't wait to get this tub up and running again! __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

11-18-2009, 11:42 PM	#307 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	New tank arrived safe and sound this afternoon So did a nice big box from Sweet Aquatics full of Crypt species. Waiting for one more delivery from Aqua Forest tomorrow and I'm back in business! LOTS to do in the meantime, so off I go... Cheers! __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

11-19-2009, 03:25 AM	#308 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	Why me? In messing around, trying to get some things taken care of in preparation for tomorrow night's planting extravaganza, I set the new tank on the stand. Something wasn't quite right. Wouldn't line up right - if the front was flush, the sides wouldn't line up on the cabinet. If the sides were flush, the front and back were skewed. Enter the Tape Measure. That stand was built dead-nuts square. The top is completely flat. This new tank is out of square by 3/16". One corner to corner measurement is 26-5/16", the other corner to corner is 26-1/2". I measured the old tank - perfectly square. What to do? Well, the only solution I came up with is to buy a 2'x4' sheet of 1/4" MDF to sit on top of the cabinet and under the Garden Mat. I'll cut it just a few 16ths of an inch bigger all the way around so that the tank is resting completely on surface and not overhanging even the slightest little bit. Flat black spray paint the edges so it blends in with the Mat. I think it'll work out just fine. I hope... __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

11-19-2009, 03:33 AM	#309 (permalink)
CL Aquascaper (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 6,929	Wow, how do they manage that with glass tanks that are supposed to be precisely made. I'd almost be nervous to use that considering how perfect the seams have to be. But hey, Jeff was nice enough to send you a replacement. __________________ GLA 48 Rimless \| 10 Reef \| 7.2 Rimless Cube \| 5.4 Rimless Nano \| Pimp→ GLA #1 - Victor #49 - Eheim #298

11-19-2009, 03:34 AM	#310 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	Tanks are made in China now... The seams all look perfect. It's the bottom plate that doesn't seem to be square. I'll try to snap a pic of the old one next to the new one. The high-clarity glass is beautiful and it's noticeably heavier than the old one, due to the new 6mm glass. I'm assuming there will be much less deflection as well. __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

11-20-2009, 01:51 AM	#312 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	Tank & cabinet leveled, substrate & additives in, hardscape complete... Time for a break. Headed into the studio for the first time in a long time. Planting commences tomorrow right after work. I've got a super sweet run of pictures to post when all is complete No teasers, no b.s. Off to make some bleeps & beats -- Cheers! __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

Yesterday, 07:07 PM	#313 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	She's up and running. I cut a sheet of 1/4" MDF to 3/16" bigger than the footprint of the tank to deal with the non-square issue. I was having some trouble getting the Garden Mat aligned with the MDF, cabinet and tank so I used some 3M spray adhesive to attach the mat to the board. That way, I was able to trim the mat perfectly flush to the MDF - worked great! I guess I'll let the pictures speak for themselves. I set up a tripod about 18" in front of the tank and just snapped pics as I went along. 100% crypts, though I might add some 'belem' sp. hairgrass to the foreground. Parva Undulata Moehlmannii Pontederiifolia Walkerii Ideii Petchii Willisii green & brown var. Crispalliata var. flaccidifolia Aqua Medic Sun Beam 2x24W with Giesemann Powerchrome Daylight bulbs I think that's the complete list... Enjoy! __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

Yesterday, 07:33 PM	#314 (permalink)
ZooTycoonMaster Just Do!(Aqua) It (View User Tanks) PTrader: (22/100%) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Clara, California Posts: 3,190	I can't wait to see it filled in Were you originally planning on having it 100% crypts? __________________ Eheim Pimp #341 Eheim Classic 2213 10 Gallon Tank

Yesterday, 07:50 PM	#315 (permalink)
roybot73 Disengage The Simulator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (29/100%) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 954	I was originally going to include some Anubias petite, but the more I thought about it, the more I liked the idea of a crypt only setup. This one's gonna take a while __________________ 20 Gallon Long ADA 60-P No Pimp Club.

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