Journal of a Mad Scientist: ADA 120-P (56K warning!)

Renegade545 · 09-21-2008, 08:29 PM

Absolutely beautiful setup. Subscribed.

Chrisinator · 09-21-2008, 11:28 PM

Awesomeness!

**SuRje1976** · 09-23-2008, 02:37 PM

Thanks again guys!

Bob - I did take all of the pictures that I sent in for the article, but I just got lucky I think. Most of them were taken with a little point and shoot. I took couple of them at my daughter's birthday party, and was able to borrow my brother's RebelXT. Those came out really nice. As far as the pH goes, yep - I'm still running very low. I haven't played around with the kH at all since that whole giant thread you started a couple of years back. I'm still not dosing anything for kH, still using 100% RO/DI water. I do dose Equilibrium to bring up the Ca & Mg. Maybe I'll play around with the kH this fall!

Markone · 02-06-2009, 04:29 PM

Something new to that, my favourite tank

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**SuRje1976** · 02-06-2009, 05:53 PM

Boy has a lot happened since my last update. I'm working on a new layout for the tank, and at the moment, there isn't much going on. I'm just trying to grow things out a bit so I've got enough stems to do what I've got in mind.

I did stop dosing macros for a while to see how the plants would respond. Needless to say, they did not like it. It wasn't really a sensible thing to do, especially since I'm trying to GROW things out.

So yesterday I refilled the autodosing reservoirs, recalibrated the pumps and got things going again! I should be able to post a picture of the tank in about a couple of weeks. As of right now, it's just a stem farm!

On a side note, I recently replaced one of my 10000K 54W T5 with an 18000K 54W T5. It's pretty pink. So I've got 2x6500K, 1x10000K and 1x18000K. I REALLY like the color I get from this combination! Now I've got to wait and see if the plants like it as much as I do...

gmccreedy · 02-06-2009, 05:59 PM

I figured you were hiding pics since you are hosting hte next meeting. LOL.

Looking forward to the changes my man. Always exciting to see what you come up with!

Gotta ask though, what the heck prompted you to stop dosing macros??

I am going to take one guess... dropping off N and a new fancy pink light.... Working on the colorata still? LOL.

Ashok · 02-06-2009, 07:21 PM

One of the best tanks I've seen. It used to be my desktop background for a long time.

**SuRje1976** · 02-06-2009, 09:48 PM

Glenn, I didn't actually put the 18000K bulb in until yesterday. What I can say for sure is that I starved those Colorata for nitrate for weeks and they did not turn red. So I don't know what the deal is there. Tried with no phosphate, and with higher phosphate (2ppm), all with zero nitrate.

Tried the ADA ferts too. One thing I can say for sure is that they're great for a tank full of stems if you don't like trimming. Plant grow sloooowly. Not much help in the color department though.

After the March meeting I may experiment with Nitrate, but no phosphate dosing like Johnny. Right now I need to build the plant mass.

So I got the 18000K bulb hoping that the spectrum has more to do with the plant color than fert parameters and quantity of light do.

Ashok - thanks so much, it means a lot to me

CL · 02-06-2009, 10:37 PM

I'd love to see the results of the fert experiments. My red plants have stopped turning red as well

**SuRje1976** · 02-06-2009, 11:51 PM

CL - I haven't had any luck yet. I will definitely keep you posted. What I can say though is that the 18000K bulb does make the plants look a bit more red.

**imeridian** · 02-07-2009, 12:18 AM

Maybe you should send some to me, I'll see if I can get 'em red.

Pinto · 02-07-2009, 01:36 AM

This is by far one of my favorite journals.
Just STUNNING!!

LondonDragon · 02-07-2009, 11:22 AM

One of my favourite setups of all time

Just one question. How do you keep the anubias algae free?? I can't seem to keep older leaves without dark spots? Whats the secret? Thanks

**SuRje1976** · 02-07-2009, 01:58 PM

Thanks folks!

LD - I ran what I think most would consider low-mid light. I was running only 2x54W most of the day. I had a 3.5 hour "burst" of 4x54W. Total photoperiod was 8 hours. I think that helped keep the spot algae at bay. I think the high phosphates (relative to nitrates) helped as well. I kept PO4 1.5ppm and NO3 at 9.5ppm. I did also go into the tank every day and trim out a dozen or two of the older leaves, just to keep things growing.

**ZooTycoonMaster** · 02-07-2009, 04:26 PM

WOW I love your tank!!!! Is that Purple Bamboo that's growing out of the water?

09-21-2008, 08:29 PM	#511 (permalink)
Renegade545 Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: tulsa, ok. Posts: 95	Absolutely beautiful setup. Subscribed. __________________

09-21-2008, 11:28 PM	#512 (permalink)
Chrisinator Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 481	Awesomeness! __________________ 10G Planted Peacock Gudgeon Aquarium • Journal •

09-23-2008, 02:37 PM	#513 (permalink)
SuRje1976 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10/100%) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 618	Thanks again guys! Bob - I did take all of the pictures that I sent in for the article, but I just got lucky I think. Most of them were taken with a little point and shoot. I took couple of them at my daughter's birthday party, and was able to borrow my brother's RebelXT. Those came out really nice. As far as the pH goes, yep - I'm still running very low. I haven't played around with the kH at all since that whole giant thread you started a couple of years back. I'm still not dosing anything for kH, still using 100% RO/DI water. I do dose Equilibrium to bring up the Ca & Mg. Maybe I'll play around with the kH this fall! __________________ Sergio C. _\\n/ SuMo Aquarium Regulators My Automatic Water Changer - My Automatic Fert Doser - ADA 120P Journal

02-06-2009, 05:53 PM	#515 (permalink)
SuRje1976 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10/100%) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 618	Boy has a lot happened since my last update. I'm working on a new layout for the tank, and at the moment, there isn't much going on. I'm just trying to grow things out a bit so I've got enough stems to do what I've got in mind. I did stop dosing macros for a while to see how the plants would respond. Needless to say, they did not like it. It wasn't really a sensible thing to do, especially since I'm trying to GROW things out. So yesterday I refilled the autodosing reservoirs, recalibrated the pumps and got things going again! I should be able to post a picture of the tank in about a couple of weeks. As of right now, it's just a stem farm! On a side note, I recently replaced one of my 10000K 54W T5 with an 18000K 54W T5. It's pretty pink. So I've got 2x6500K, 1x10000K and 1x18000K. I REALLY like the color I get from this combination! Now I've got to wait and see if the plants like it as much as I do... __________________ Sergio C. _\\n/ SuMo Aquarium Regulators My Automatic Water Changer - My Automatic Fert Doser - ADA 120P Journal

02-06-2009, 05:59 PM	#516 (permalink)
gmccreedy Likes the Kool-Aid (View User Tanks) PTrader: (64/100%) Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 3,894	I figured you were hiding pics since you are hosting hte next meeting. LOL. Looking forward to the changes my man. Always exciting to see what you come up with! Gotta ask though, what the heck prompted you to stop dosing macros?? I am going to take one guess... dropping off N and a new fancy pink light.... Working on the colorata still? LOL. __________________ ~Glenn

02-06-2009, 04:29 PM	#514 (permalink)
Markone Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 28	Something new to that, my favourite tank ?

02-06-2009, 07:21 PM	#517 (permalink)
Ashok Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 103	One of the best tanks I've seen. It used to be my desktop background for a long time.

02-06-2009, 09:48 PM	#518 (permalink)
SuRje1976 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10/100%) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 618	Glenn, I didn't actually put the 18000K bulb in until yesterday. What I can say for sure is that I starved those Colorata for nitrate for weeks and they did not turn red. So I don't know what the deal is there. Tried with no phosphate, and with higher phosphate (2ppm), all with zero nitrate. Tried the ADA ferts too. One thing I can say for sure is that they're great for a tank full of stems if you don't like trimming. Plant grow sloooowly. Not much help in the color department though. After the March meeting I may experiment with Nitrate, but no phosphate dosing like Johnny. Right now I need to build the plant mass. So I got the 18000K bulb hoping that the spectrum has more to do with the plant color than fert parameters and quantity of light do. Ashok - thanks so much, it means a lot to me

02-06-2009, 10:37 PM	#519 (permalink)
CL Aquascaper (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 6,929	I'd love to see the results of the fert experiments. My red plants have stopped turning red as well __________________ GLA 48 Rimless \| 10 Reef \| 7.2 Rimless Cube \| 5.4 Rimless Nano \| Pimp→ GLA #1 - Victor #49 - Eheim #298

02-06-2009, 11:51 PM	#520 (permalink)
SuRje1976 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10/100%) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 618	CL - I haven't had any luck yet. I will definitely keep you posted. What I can say though is that the 18000K bulb does make the plants look a bit more red. __________________ Sergio C. _\\n/ SuMo Aquarium Regulators My Automatic Water Changer - My Automatic Fert Doser - ADA 120P Journal

02-07-2009, 12:18 AM	#521 (permalink)
imeridian Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (47/100%) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chambersburg, PA Posts: 2,847	Maybe you should send some to me, I'll see if I can get 'em red. __________________ 75 Gallon Planted Tank Journal, Details \| 5.5 Gallon Reef

02-07-2009, 01:36 AM	#522 (permalink)
Pinto Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 207	This is by far one of my favorite journals. Just STUNNING!!

02-07-2009, 11:22 AM	#523 (permalink)
LondonDragon Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 233	One of my favourite setups of all time Just one question. How do you keep the anubias algae free?? I can't seem to keep older leaves without dark spots? Whats the secret? Thanks __________________

02-07-2009, 01:58 PM	#524 (permalink)
SuRje1976 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10/100%) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 618	Thanks folks! LD - I ran what I think most would consider low-mid light. I was running only 2x54W most of the day. I had a 3.5 hour "burst" of 4x54W. Total photoperiod was 8 hours. I think that helped keep the spot algae at bay. I think the high phosphates (relative to nitrates) helped as well. I kept PO4 1.5ppm and NO3 at 9.5ppm. I did also go into the tank every day and trim out a dozen or two of the older leaves, just to keep things growing. __________________ Sergio C. _\\n/ SuMo Aquarium Regulators My Automatic Water Changer - My Automatic Fert Doser - ADA 120P Journal

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ZooTycoonMaster Just Do!(Aqua) It (View User Tanks) PTrader: (22/100%) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Clara, California Posts: 3,190	WOW I love your tank!!!! Is that Purple Bamboo that's growing out of the water? __________________ Eheim Pimp #341 Eheim Classic 2213 10 Gallon Tank

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