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Old 07-29-2005, 09:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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An absolutely beautiful layout Pjan - awesome photography too.

To me it appears perfectly balanced in all aspects. I am certain it will be a top contender in the AGA contest.

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Old 07-29-2005, 09:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Hmm...I don't like this layout . Island is very good but this Nympeae ruin all balance (IMHO), look very “alien” to me. Also you need add some fish because aquascape look “empty” like “no finished”. One that i like in this tank is plant condition, good color, shape and no algae.

ps. maybe i'm wrong but i'm think that is one species(on the left, close to stone) that isn't on the list.
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Old 07-29-2005, 09:46 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I have to disagree with Norbert. That's one of the nicest layouts I have seen in a long time -- definitely enter it in the aquascaping contest.
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hmm...I don't like this layout . Island is very good but this Nympeae ruin all balance (IMHO), look very “alien” to me. Also you need add some fish because aquascape look “empty” like “no finished”. One that i like in this tank is plant condition, good color, shape and no algae.

ps. maybe i'm wrong but i'm think that is one species(on the left, close to stone) that isn't on the list.
No offence, but very smooth lay-outs are also artificial.
It's very easy to copy "amano" lay-outs and follow his rules. A few rocks, one or two species of plants and ready...

The hardest point is to develop an own "style" with some specific elements.
With this lay-out I want to express something : an old garden wich has been "civilized" once. Some plants are become too big in this "old garden" like the Lotus, but has his own beauty.

So, I think an aquascape must have a " soul". You must feel the power of growing plants in the tank.

If I follow exact the "standard Amano rules", you're right ( ) and I should remove the Lotus or trimm it down to 1/4 to fit in the 0,618 rule.

Sometimes it takes guts to leave the safe path and give nature a chance...

The strange plant : Marseila sp. , just testing this species how it develops for future aquascapes.

Thanks anyway for the remarks and this little discussion !
I'm here to learn and to grow..

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Old 07-29-2005, 10:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It's very easy to copy "amano" lay-outs and follow his rules. A few rocks, one or two species of plants and ready...
IMHO not so easy ...it just look so easy. Of course if you speak about iwagumi style that true, It easy create this kind of layout.....if you have rocks

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With this lay-out I want to express something : an old garden wich has been "civilized" once. Some plants are become too big in this "old garden" like the Lotus, but has his own beauty.
That's good ....i only want to say that this aquascape is not what i like. 0.618 rule is important but this is not only that aquascape should have. Dutch style have maaaany rules (i don't speak about your tank) but i hate this color-full, pomp (almost like tall gothic cathedral) layouts.

I mad that my english is soo bad that i can't continued this discusion and say exactly what i mean. . Anyway...good workshop PJAN.
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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holy smokes thats a sweet looking tank, really neat setup everything must grow pretty fast under all that light..
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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PJan,

Great looking tank! Good Job!

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Old 07-30-2005, 11:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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So, I think an aquascape must have a " soul". You must feel the power of growing plants in the tank.

If I follow exact the "standard Amano rules", you're right ( ) and I should remove the Lotus or trimm it down to 1/4 to fit in the 0,618 rule.

Sometimes it takes guts to leave the safe path and give nature a chance...
I agree with you totally.

I'm not a big fan of Amano, for one simple reason: Though all his tanks are beautiful, after awhile, they all look the same to me. Maybe it's because he sticks to the "rules" too much. Hooray for the independant thinker.

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Old 07-30-2005, 11:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
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That's one awesome tank I've seen in awhile. Great work!!! Personally I think its great to have something new; I studied History of Art, one rule is that you can never break a rule in the world of art, but merely be just applying another rule. :-)
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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In the world of planted tanks, we each follow our own aquascaping techniques. PJAN, you have done a great job scaping this tank, and I agree that it will be a good contender.
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:24 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong it's a very nice tank but.. there is something a little weird about it i can't place. Those judges are very picky.
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Old 07-31-2005, 02:42 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong it's a very nice tank but.. there is something a little weird about it i can't place. Those judges are very picky.
Yeah, I know...

I had friends over here tonight and they could not beleive how good the tank was looking....
So clean and even the plants looked unreal : almost a painting.
They also said " this is not nomal". Not that I want to brag... the picture is conform the truth.

Well, I make some more shots tomorrow and a close- up of the tank.

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Old 07-31-2005, 09:39 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Oh yes more pics please
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Hello all,

Thanks for the kind words.

I shot some details :






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Old 07-31-2005, 10:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
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WOW! the second pic looks like a scape you could find in a famous natural garden. lots of oooos and ahhhhhhs from me
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