How long does it last

C2C · 11-04-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo tetra

yea that amount of light is plenty. That is 4.3 watts a gallon, a bit on the high side. What kind of lights are they? You may not need all of that.

power compacts

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Originally Posted by Riiz

2x65watt is all you will need in a 60gal. They are shallow tanks and light will not have any trouble maintaining more than adequate levels at the substrate.

really? so 2 watts per gallon is enough

sewingalot · 11-04-2009, 11:26 PM

I had 2 X 65 pc watts on my 55 gallon and grew lots of pretty plants, I had reds without stunning colors, but algae free growth overall. If you get the 4 x 65 can you turn off one of the sets of lights? If so, I would opt for it. That way you could experiment with the higher light on at different times, etc.

C2C · 11-05-2009, 12:57 AM

ok so with flourite, liquid fert, excel, and other trace element dosing i should be able to grow anything green that requires medium to low light

**lauraleellbp** · 11-05-2009, 03:31 AM

Given you've got a good pressurized CO2 setup, yes.

C2C · 11-05-2009, 09:36 AM

no co2

**lauraleellbp** · 11-05-2009, 02:43 PM

Then 4x65 watts is too much light.

And most plants rated for "medium light" need CO2 (eg Blyxa, Downoi, most carpeting plants, many stems...)

bradac56 · 11-05-2009, 03:35 PM

I grow Blyxa japonica just fine without C02 with medium light and decent ferts (EI dry dosing) and SMS substrate.

- Brad

C2C · 11-05-2009, 05:33 PM

would the red sea system work...the one that has the pump and is kind of like a diy

bradac56 · 11-05-2009, 09:06 PM

It might work fine but you'll have to futz with it since it's no better than DIY C02 which is never as consistent as a pressurized rig. Lots of DIY C02 people grow amazing plants but they like to tweak there setup where the pressurized group doesn't. It just depends on your willingness to work on it allot. I doubt the red sea bottle costs that much and it shouldn't hurt anything to try it.

- Brad

C2C · 11-05-2009, 11:58 PM

its probably cheaper to do diy huh

**Riiz** · 11-06-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by C2C

would the red sea system work...the one that has the pump and is kind of like a diy

kind of pointless, I would go DIY, with a few bottles going concurrently and use a Hagen Elite Mini as the diffusor, works amazingly well.

daverockssocks · 11-06-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by C2C

its probably cheaper to do diy huh

Depends on how much you value your time. I did DIY for two years and after going pressurized I never want to see yeast in a soda bottle again.

C2C · 11-06-2009, 06:22 AM

i wish i had the extra money...with that its going to cost me around $1500 max cost

C2C · 11-06-2009, 06:23 AM

total setup cost that is

daverockssocks · 11-06-2009, 11:03 PM

DIY won't cut it in a 60 gallon tank so lower the light levels

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lauraleellbp Fresh Fish Freak (View User Tanks) PTrader: (53/100%) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 11,728	Then 4x65 watts is too much light. And most plants rated for "medium light" need CO2 (eg Blyxa, Downoi, most carpeting plants, many stems...) __________________ Laura Lee's tank Journals: At Work-10 gal Shrimpy Crypt Jungle, 29 gal Planted Tetra Tank (in progress), At Home- 46 gal Low Tech Planted (in progress), 90 gal New World Community August 2009 Fishing trip in the Amazon; my Journal of 10 days in Bolivia along the Rio San Martin (in progress)

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bradac56 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (5/100%) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Blue Springs, MO Posts: 673	I grow Blyxa japonica just fine without C02 with medium light and decent ferts (EI dry dosing) and SMS substrate. - Brad __________________ Proud member of the Heart of America Aquarium Society and the International Betta Congress VICTOR PIMP #58 - VTS-253A-320 x2, VTS-253D-320.

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bradac56 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (5/100%) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Blue Springs, MO Posts: 673	It might work fine but you'll have to futz with it since it's no better than DIY C02 which is never as consistent as a pressurized rig. Lots of DIY C02 people grow amazing plants but they like to tweak there setup where the pressurized group doesn't. It just depends on your willingness to work on it allot. I doubt the red sea bottle costs that much and it shouldn't hurt anything to try it. - Brad __________________ Proud member of the Heart of America Aquarium Society and the International Betta Congress VICTOR PIMP #58 - VTS-253A-320 x2, VTS-253D-320.

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sewingalot Moderator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (59/100%) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 2,974	I had 2 X 65 pc watts on my 55 gallon and grew lots of pretty plants, I had reds without stunning colors, but algae free growth overall. If you get the 4 x 65 can you turn off one of the sets of lights? If so, I would opt for it. That way you could experiment with the higher light on at different times, etc.

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C2C Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 391	ok so with flourite, liquid fert, excel, and other trace element dosing i should be able to grow anything green that requires medium to low light

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C2C Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 391	no co2

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C2C Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 391	would the red sea system work...the one that has the pump and is kind of like a diy

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