Substrate confusion

[Left C]

Originally Posted by Hoppy

Ah, you spoiled the surprise!

I blame it on Texas Instruments. I couldn't of done it without their help.

[bradac56]

Originally Posted by Hoppy

Let's assume I fill my 100 gallon tank with water - 800 pounds or so of water. Then I pour 135 pounds of Flourite in the tank. I end up with a lot of water on the floor, my wife threatening me, me contemplating jumping off a bridge, but I don't then have 935 pounds of stuff in the tank. I have 935 pounds less however much water spilled on the floor. The tank is still full as it was before I added the Flourite. So, didn't I add less than 135 pounds to the tank? Therefore the Flourite weighs a lot less in the tank than not in the tank.

If this seems hard to believe, please conduct this experiment (I will hide out for a few months just to be safe, in case you tell your wife I egged you on to it.)

Tit-for-tat eah?

- Brad

[Rob in Puyallup]

Hi gang,

Only my third post here...

I'm looking into setting up a new 29 gal tank, planted, of course, and have started looking into the many aspects of this procedure. I've seen substrate in local shops that is sold wet with nitrifying bacteria and water conditioners already in the bag. Has anyone here used this product? It would be nice to have the tank up and running quickly, (sometimes I'm sooo impatient! ). The gravel does seem expensive, though...

Looking for an easy to clean gravel that will be good for the plants and critters that I place in the tank.

Thanks!
Rob

[fibertech]

Originally Posted by Rob in Puyallup

Hi gang,

Only my third post here...

I'm looking into setting up a new 29 gal tank, planted, of course, and have started looking into the many aspects of this procedure. I've seen substrate in local shops that is sold wet with nitrifying bacteria and water conditioners already in the bag. Has anyone here used this product? It would be nice to have the tank up and running quickly, (sometimes I'm sooo impatient! ). The gravel does seem expensive, though...

Looking for an easy to clean gravel that will be good for the plants and critters that I place in the tank.

Thanks!
Rob

Ecco-Complete?
I use it and love it. I think the bacteria and conditioner statement is just hype. You will still need to cycle your tank like usual.

[FSM]

Originally Posted by Hoppy

Let's assume I fill my 100 gallon tank with water - 800 pounds or so of water. Then I pour 135 pounds of Flourite in the tank. I end up with a lot of water on the floor, my wife threatening me, me contemplating jumping off a bridge, but I don't then have 935 pounds of stuff in the tank. I have 935 pounds less however much water spilled on the floor. The tank is still full as it was before I added the Flourite. So, didn't I add less than 135 pounds to the tank? Therefore the Flourite weighs a lot less in the tank than not in the tank.

If this seems hard to believe, please conduct this experiment (I will hide out for a few months just to be safe, in case you tell your wife I egged you on to it.)

Let's assume flourite is twice as dense as water.

800 lbs (100 gallons, 23100 cubic inches) + 80 lbs (5 gallons, 1155 cubic inches)

You lose 5 gallons (1155 cubic inches) of water (40 pounds) leaving 760 pounds of water and 80 pounds of flourite to account for the 840 total pounds.

I think.

[Torpedobarb]

Smoq...

I just had to get more colorquartz for my tank as well. I was sent a large flat rate box filled and it was almost a full damn bag. I would just suggest putting a wtb thread in the sns and hope someone can help you out. remember that the larger grain substrates will end up on top no matter what. I would try to get more colorquartz. I made slopes 2 months ago and they are holding just fine. best decision I made.