AZOO substrate

csfish · 11-09-2003, 09:53 PM

Has anyone had any experience with substrate from AZOO? I'm asking because it's carried by one of the LFS for substantially less than Seachem Flourite. Thanks

m.lemay · 11-09-2003, 10:35 PM

Do you have a link for details?

csfish · 11-09-2003, 11:17 PM

I don't actually... My Google searches on "AZOO" and "AZOO plant substrate" haven't come up with much.

Buck · 11-10-2003, 01:06 AM

Dang.... I give up, I tried to find it as well, no luck. I have never heard or seen it so if you can find a source I would love to see more on it.

Go back to the LFS and write down any info from the bag and we can take it from there.

csfish · 11-19-2003, 05:58 AM

Ok, here's what I got.... I'll paraphase to save you from "Taiwanese English"...
- comes in a 5.4kg (12lb) bag for a 40l (10gal) tank
- looks like reddsh, clay-colored 2-3mm (small gravel) size fish food pellets
- not meant to be rinsed (hmmm. like Flourite?)
- not meant to be mixed with gravel or other substrates
- supposed to contain enough nutrients so no supplementation needed (can't remember if that meant undergravel or water column or both....)
- may have buffering effect on water, ie. increase pH, which can be compensated by increasing CO2
- should last for 15 months before being replaced

Saw a nicely planted display tank at a brick-and-mortar Big Al's that looked like it had this "Plant Growth Bed" (as it states on the label). Interesting, but not sure if I'd be into tearing down a tank to replant after 15 months.

2la · 11-19-2003, 07:59 AM

It isn't this, is it? I think Red Sea and Azoo might be in cahoots.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/wetpetsu...seaflorba.html

csfish · 11-20-2003, 04:46 AM

Hmmmm, looks and sounds suspicously similar.... you might be right, 2la. At the LFS here, the AZOO substrate is going for $27.99 Cdn and the WetPets on-line store lists the Red Sea "version" for $36 US. Interesting how much money can be made when you re-package and re-label the same(?) product.

The LFS's around here sell SeaChem Flourite for $39.99 Cdn or more, so I thought I'd ask about the AZOO product.

j66213b · 11-05-2009, 12:39 AM

http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategor...lant-Substrate 19$ or cheaper at 4 bags

leviathan0 · 11-05-2009, 01:02 AM

Red Sea rebrands many of Azoo's products, so what you're looking at there is indeed the same as Red Sea's Flora Base.

Orlando · 11-05-2009, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviathan0

Red Sea rebrands many of Azoo's products, so what you're looking at there is indeed the same as Red Sea's Flora Base.

Thats not true at all

leviathan0 · 11-05-2009, 01:11 AM

And I just realized this thread is 6 years old.

Orlando · 11-05-2009, 01:15 AM

In that amount of time Azoo has changed ownership and reformulated there substrate, as well as added a new addition of the Black version. The newer version is not to be compared to substrate from 7 years ago.

Much has changed as we grew older and more wise

leviathan0 · 11-05-2009, 01:25 AM

But wouldn't the one they're making for Red Sea now also be the new one? Or are they just ordering the old formula?

Orlando · 11-05-2009, 01:28 AM

Those are 2 completely different companies all together, and completely different substrates. Most likely old stock on the shelf.

leviathan0 · 11-05-2009, 01:35 AM

They are two different companies, but Red Sea does rebrand Azoo products, so the substrate (at least in some point in time) is the same.

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11-09-2003, 09:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
csfish Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 88	Has anyone had any experience with substrate from AZOO? I'm asking because it's carried by one of the LFS for substantially less than Seachem Flourite. Thanks

11-09-2003, 11:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
csfish Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 88	I don't actually... My Google searches on "AZOO" and "AZOO plant substrate" haven't come up with much.

11-19-2003, 05:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
csfish Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 88	Ok, here's what I got.... I'll paraphase to save you from "Taiwanese English"... - comes in a 5.4kg (12lb) bag for a 40l (10gal) tank - looks like reddsh, clay-colored 2-3mm (small gravel) size fish food pellets - not meant to be rinsed (hmmm. like Flourite?) - not meant to be mixed with gravel or other substrates - supposed to contain enough nutrients so no supplementation needed (can't remember if that meant undergravel or water column or both....) - may have buffering effect on water, ie. increase pH, which can be compensated by increasing CO2 - should last for 15 months before being replaced Saw a nicely planted display tank at a brick-and-mortar Big Al's that looked like it had this "Plant Growth Bed" (as it states on the label). Interesting, but not sure if I'd be into tearing down a tank to replant after 15 months.

11-19-2003, 07:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
2la Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 993	It isn't this, is it? I think Red Sea and Azoo might be in cahoots. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/wetpetsu...seaflorba.html

11-20-2003, 04:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
csfish Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 88	Hmmmm, looks and sounds suspicously similar.... you might be right, 2la. At the LFS here, the AZOO substrate is going for $27.99 Cdn and the WetPets on-line store lists the Red Sea "version" for $36 US. Interesting how much money can be made when you re-package and re-label the same(?) product. The LFS's around here sell SeaChem Flourite for $39.99 Cdn or more, so I thought I'd ask about the AZOO product.

11-05-2009, 12:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
j66213b Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (13/100%) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: overland park, ks Posts: 86	http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategor...lant-Substrate 19$ or cheaper at 4 bags

11-05-2009, 01:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
leviathan0 Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 189	Red Sea rebrands many of Azoo's products, so what you're looking at there is indeed the same as Red Sea's Flora Base.

11-05-2009, 01:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
leviathan0 Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 189	And I just realized this thread is 6 years old.

11-05-2009, 01:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
leviathan0 Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 189	But wouldn't the one they're making for Red Sea now also be the new one? Or are they just ordering the old formula?

11-05-2009, 01:35 AM	#15 (permalink)
leviathan0 Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 189	They are two different companies, but Red Sea does rebrand Azoo products, so the substrate (at least in some point in time) is the same.

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