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Old 04-11-2008, 01:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there, I was wondering While looking at my tank, the other day. I saw a few adult CRS shrimps, with very bad body colour. Although they are high grades, they have body colour that is almost transparent. Ok, here is the question. If let say the one i saw, was a male. Or it can be either way, a female. If they mate with another, which is normal. But high grade. Will the shrimplet be like them later on? Is there a way to improve their body colour Pls share with me. . . Thanks
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Hi there, I was wondering While looking at my tank, the other day. I saw a few adult CRS shrimps, with very bad body colour. Although they are high grades, they have body colour that is almost transparent. Ok, here is the question. If let say the one i saw, was a male. Or it can be either way, a female. If they mate with another, which is normal. But high grade. Will the shrimplet be like them later on? Is there a way to improve their body colour Pls share with me. . . Thanks
You said that your CRS color is almost transparent? Like no white? If so they are not considered high grades and more like "C" grades. I think if you breed 2 high grade shrimps you will get high grades but also a few low ones but I'm not sure if you will get "C" grades say if you mated Mosura or Hinos. I think you will always get a low grade shrimplet in a batch. The better the genes of the parents the better the shrimplets, Thats why breeders select breed them because when there is a lower grade CRS in the batch they remove it so the better genes stay. As for improving color I think just good nutrition and genes. There is shirakura minerals and all that, but I haven't tried it so I can't tell you if it does help improve shrimps. Hope that helps!

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Hi phnizzle, the few crss i refer to, are actually at least an ss grade. They have white on their body.
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Oh, ok I thought you meant transparent as in no white. Sorry for the misunderstanding. But from what I know if you were to breed to "SS" grade shrimp they should breed good grade shrimp, but may sometimes have a few lower grade than the parents. So if you plan on having all S+ in your tank I think you have to remove the lower grades so they don't breed with the higher ones. Such as if "C" grade was to mate with an "SS" grade there wouldn't be as much high grades as "SS" + "SS".
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Hi again, its ok. Ha ha... I didnt explained in full. Sorry about that. I guess what you mean. But do u know of any way to bring back the colour on them? My water are normal, or sould i say, good. So i dont think its the water problem.
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maybe feed them some shirakura mineral powder. I haven't tried it so maybe someone on the forum can help you out. I am going to start to feed my shrimp spinich as that is good nutrition. What i feed my shrimps are shirakura ball food and shirakura micro organism w/ algae wafers. I will soon feed them blood worms and spinich. http://cgi.ebay.com/Crystal-red-shri...QQcmdZViewItem
you can find it at singapore probably. The mineral (white packet) which is said to enhance the color of shrimps. The micro organisms is also good which I have and it helped my population more because shrimplets had a better chance surviving. Hope that helps! take care
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I dont dare try food that is powder form... Ha ha... Dont really know how much should i add in. As for blood worms.. Its something new to me. I guess i will try abit later. Thanks for all your infor.. Take care pal.
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Assuming I don't care to have incredibly high grade shrimp, is there anything wrong with breeding low grades to high grades?
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Hi,

there's an interesting thread in Crustaforum regarding exactly this subject.
When you cross golden bees with red bees you get high grades but, possibly, poor white areas. I guess that your bees have golden bee genes.

More: http://www.crustaforum.com/lhtopic,336,0,0,asc,.html

The only way to get better body color is careful selection of the shrimp with more white and breeding them on.
Takes a lot of time, place and work, but is ultimately more rewarding.

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Hi all, thanks for sharing so much of the infor with me. I appreciate all your advises. I dont really mind about what grade, my shrimplets will trun out to be. So long they are healthy and feeding well. I have a better understanding now. Thanks so much. But, its there a way to improve the colour, of my existing shrimps??? They seem to have fading colour for awhile now.. Will the colour come back again when they are not stress? or feed with better food? If there are foods, that will improve their body colour... I have attached some photos here. Do see if it will support what i asked here. Thanks all...
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Your white color has be faded. These things may cause your shrimps white colors to be faded. Your temp is chaning too offten, water quality is not good or not getting light long enough. There is also chance that your shrimps came from high grades but sometimes few shrimps doesn't have good white color. That is why some people do select breed with only good colors. Try testing your water. I sometimes lose white color due to not turning on my heater... but, they do get back within few hours. Also, some shrimps do get better color after molting. Any ways, hope these helped you. Good luck~
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Hi,

there's an interesting thread in Crustaforum regarding exactly this subject.
When you cross golden bees with red bees you get high grades but, possibly, poor white areas. I guess that your bees have golden bee genes.

More: http://www.crustaforum.com/lhtopic,336,0,0,asc,.html

The only way to get better body color is careful selection of the shrimp with more white and breeding them on.
Takes a lot of time, place and work, but is ultimately more rewarding.

Cheers
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I believe the high grade whites should be fine though. There is also a grading scale for those.

"Snow white" or whatever now is the whitest form I believe will be fine, time till tell though.

I've had similar problems with some of my shrimp and I figured they're the ones needed culling.

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