Information for people wanting to breed Cherry Shrimp - Page 8

spypet · 11-21-2007, 07:10 PM

Now that several berried females gave birth and my shrimp are thriving in my shrimp only tank, I moved all the adult males and no-berry females to another tank. so my question is; does it pay to segregate the redder males from the clear carapace males for mating with the females, or does it hardly matter.

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**Madfish** · 11-21-2007, 08:18 PM

I dont know I will be able to tell you in a few months. I have stated to slective breed them to find out just that.

ZooTycoonMaster · 01-03-2008, 02:38 AM

Since I have fish in my tank with RCS, and have no other tank avaliable, I just let the eggs hatch in the water and, like Darwin says, "Survival of the fittest". So some of the baby RCS get eaten, but the rest hide and grow up

**A Hill** · 01-22-2008, 06:01 PM

Spypet,

I wouldn't expect immediate results. After a few generations (3-5) I would expect some results. I think it would take at least that long to get the certain trait you're looking for steady, because as you've said they're one heck of a mix of genes. Starting out with a strict pair or two would work best. Maybe 1 male and 4 females? Limit the males present and select the best females. I've been trying this here and there but lack of tank space has yet to let me see results.

-Andrew

efish · 01-28-2008, 10:01 PM

I've read that shrimp uproot HC. Is this true? I was going to convert my feeder guppy tank into nano planted tank with just shrimp, but want to start with emersed HC and dwarf grass.

Ulli Bauer · 03-12-2008, 11:39 PM

Hi spypet,

I did that - took out all the relatively weak-colored males and left only one that was redder. My offspring showed a better color pretty soon, so I think that may have paid off. Now some of the ladies are almost concolorous (however only after they were first berried).

efish,
my shrimp leave the HC alone, however, the MTS always dig it out. I've resorted to binding it to little rocks, now it stays in place.

Cheers
Ulli

Dream Chaser · 03-13-2008, 05:20 PM

So, I have looked in various places but have yet to see this posted. How many offspring can be expected from one berried female RCS? I know with their minute size it is hard to give a solid count. I am also aware the number probably varies, but I am curious. 15, 30, 50, 70? Also is there generally a high survival rate of all? (shrimp only tank)
I'm excited because, as of this morning, all 4 of my females are now berried! Woohoo!

BTW, This thread is full of wonderful info. thanks to all!

Ulli Bauer · 03-14-2008, 10:46 PM

Hi DreamChaser,

you can generally assume that Red Cherry carries around 20 to 40 eggs. Young females have sometimes a little less, one of my very young females had only three eggs (must have been a teenage pregnancy).

The survival rate depends very much on how much food there is available for them. In "sterile" tanks with no muck lying around and virtually no algae growth less will survive than in tanks that look a little unkempt.

Cheers
Ulli

Dream Chaser · 03-17-2008, 02:46 PM

Thanks, Ulli! Haha, teenage pregnancy. I have noticed it looks like 2 of the females are carrying more eggs than the other two. One is carrying significantly less...maybe 8-10?
I have a few oak leaves on top of the Eco, many plants, and <gasp> have allowed algae to grow a bit. The tank has been set since early December, seeded with water, plants, and a filter all from another tank. Hopefully this will provide acceptable conditions for the majority to survive! Even if only 10 survive from each female, that increases my population from 7 to 47! yippie! Thanks again for those who contribute to this thread.
Now, if I could only figure out how to convince my fiance to allow me to upgrade to a larger tank for the shrimp...I could introduce CRS too. hmmm

SicilianDefense · 04-25-2008, 09:18 PM

Thanks for the info.
Do you really need 10 hours of lighting for successful breeding results? Is there an alternative method that's about as good? I'm willingly to do the lighting method if it's the best one, but just curious. :P

Thanks!

fishsandwitch · 04-25-2008, 09:20 PM

light has nothing to do with breeding cherry shrimp...

SicilianDefense · 04-25-2008, 09:56 PM

Yeah, I was looking on the first page. The guy who started this thread said you needed like 10 hours of lighting for good results (or something like that).

fishsandwitch · 04-25-2008, 11:59 PM

No, it says he personally has 10 hours of lighting which is pretty much irrelevant info...

SicilianDefense · 04-26-2008, 01:20 AM

Oh. Ok. So how much lighting is normal?

**southerndesert** · 04-26-2008, 01:51 AM

I run 10 hours on all my tanks simply to increase growth of bio-film....

Cheers, Bill

11-21-2007, 07:10 PM	#106 (permalink)
spypet Banned (View User Tanks) PTrader: (56) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Forest Hills, NY Posts: 3,298	Now that several berried females gave birth and my shrimp are thriving in my shrimp only tank, I moved all the adult males and no-berry females to another tank. so my question is; does it pay to segregate the redder males from the clear carapace males for mating with the females, or does it hardly matter. my coupling shrimp M/F __________________ {Clear Mesh Net Sale} {my 29gal planted tank} {my 10gal crayfish tank} {DIY moss rope ladders} {my 100% Co2 Diffuser} {DIY Lava Rock Background} {30g full of Nano stuff}

11-21-2007, 08:18 PM	#107 (permalink)
Madfish Keeper of the Algae (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hooper, Utah Posts: 603	I dont know I will be able to tell you in a few months. I have stated to slective breed them to find out just that. __________________ Whats this green fuzzy stuff thats growing in my tank.

01-22-2008, 06:01 PM	#109 (permalink)
A Hill 7.5 hours later.. (View User Tanks) PTrader: (46) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: RI,USA Posts: 4,050	Spypet, I wouldn't expect immediate results. After a few generations (3-5) I would expect some results. I think it would take at least that long to get the certain trait you're looking for steady, because as you've said they're one heck of a mix of genes. Starting out with a strict pair or two would work best. Maybe 1 male and 4 females? Limit the males present and select the best females. I've been trying this here and there but lack of tank space has yet to let me see results. -Andrew __________________ Atlanta was fun, now I'll be around for a while hopefully! Yeah I have some moss/shrimp addiction problems. At least I'm not in the red because of them, yet. J'étais Fish Newb

01-28-2008, 10:01 PM	#110 (permalink)
efish Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hoboken, NJ Posts: 159	I've read that shrimp uproot HC. Is this true? I was going to convert my feeder guppy tank into nano planted tank with just shrimp, but want to start with emersed HC and dwarf grass. __________________ 90G - CA community tank (Electric Blue Jack Dempsey, Fire Mouth, Blood Parrot, Green Terror). 8 Tiger Barbs, 4 Clown Loaches, 3 bristlenose Pleco's. 20G (tall) - Planted. Cherry shrimp, 8 neons, 5 rummy nose tetras, 3 ottos. 5.5G - emersed growth (Dwarf Hairgrass and HC)

03-12-2008, 11:39 PM	#111 (permalink)
Ulli Bauer Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 65	Hi spypet, I did that - took out all the relatively weak-colored males and left only one that was redder. My offspring showed a better color pretty soon, so I think that may have paid off. Now some of the ladies are almost concolorous (however only after they were first berried). efish, my shrimp leave the HC alone, however, the MTS always dig it out. I've resorted to binding it to little rocks, now it stays in place. Cheers Ulli __________________ A proud member of http://www.crustaforum.com

01-03-2008, 02:38 AM	#108 (permalink)
ZooTycoonMaster Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Clara, California Posts: 377	Since I have fish in my tank with RCS, and have no other tank avaliable, I just let the eggs hatch in the water and, like Darwin says, "Survival of the fittest". So some of the baby RCS get eaten, but the rest hide and grow up

03-13-2008, 05:20 PM	#112 (permalink)
Dream Chaser Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Central, IL Posts: 16	number of offspring So, I have looked in various places but have yet to see this posted. How many offspring can be expected from one berried female RCS? I know with their minute size it is hard to give a solid count. I am also aware the number probably varies, but I am curious. 15, 30, 50, 70? Also is there generally a high survival rate of all? (shrimp only tank) I'm excited because, as of this morning, all 4 of my females are now berried! Woohoo! BTW, This thread is full of wonderful info. thanks to all!

03-14-2008, 10:46 PM	#113 (permalink)
Ulli Bauer Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 65	Hi DreamChaser, you can generally assume that Red Cherry carries around 20 to 40 eggs. Young females have sometimes a little less, one of my very young females had only three eggs (must have been a teenage pregnancy). The survival rate depends very much on how much food there is available for them. In "sterile" tanks with no muck lying around and virtually no algae growth less will survive than in tanks that look a little unkempt. Cheers Ulli __________________ A proud member of http://www.crustaforum.com

03-17-2008, 02:46 PM	#114 (permalink)
Dream Chaser Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Central, IL Posts: 16	Thanks, Ulli! Haha, teenage pregnancy. I have noticed it looks like 2 of the females are carrying more eggs than the other two. One is carrying significantly less...maybe 8-10? I have a few oak leaves on top of the Eco, many plants, and <gasp> have allowed algae to grow a bit. The tank has been set since early December, seeded with water, plants, and a filter all from another tank. Hopefully this will provide acceptable conditions for the majority to survive! Even if only 10 survive from each female, that increases my population from 7 to 47! yippie! Thanks again for those who contribute to this thread. Now, if I could only figure out how to convince my fiance to allow me to upgrade to a larger tank for the shrimp...I could introduce CRS too. hmmm

04-25-2008, 09:18 PM	#115 (permalink)
SicilianDefense Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 12	Thanks for the info. Do you really need 10 hours of lighting for successful breeding results? Is there an alternative method that's about as good? I'm willingly to do the lighting method if it's the best one, but just curious. :P Thanks!

04-25-2008, 09:20 PM	#116 (permalink)
fishsandwitch Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United States of Antartica Posts: 297	light has nothing to do with breeding cherry shrimp... __________________ sand witch not sandwich! I know am not THAT bad at spellin! 55 gallon been planted only for 2 weeks 2wpg compact florescent, stealth heater, C220 canister filter, emporer 280. Angels, rainbows, guppies. 20 gallon 2 wpg RCS tank

04-25-2008, 09:56 PM	#117 (permalink)
SicilianDefense Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 12	Yeah, I was looking on the first page. The guy who started this thread said you needed like 10 hours of lighting for good results (or something like that).

04-25-2008, 11:59 PM	#118 (permalink)
fishsandwitch Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United States of Antartica Posts: 297	No, it says he personally has 10 hours of lighting which is pretty much irrelevant info... __________________ sand witch not sandwich! I know am not THAT bad at spellin! 55 gallon been planted only for 2 weeks 2wpg compact florescent, stealth heater, C220 canister filter, emporer 280. Angels, rainbows, guppies. 20 gallon 2 wpg RCS tank

04-26-2008, 01:20 AM	#119 (permalink)
SicilianDefense Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 12	Oh. Ok. So how much lighting is normal?

04-26-2008, 01:51 AM	#120 (permalink)
southerndesert Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (5) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Morristown, Arizona Posts: 368	I run 10 hours on all my tanks simply to increase growth of bio-film.... Cheers, Bill

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