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Old 04-19-2015, 05:13 PM   #1
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Need help with my tank


Can anyone tell me how to fix my tank?
I have like a mix of high tech and low tech going on in there.
For plants, I have radicans, swords, swarf saggitaria, java, and anubias.
For lights I use this:
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For substrate I use mostly gravel and a tiny bit of flourite.
For nutrients, I just use waste from my fish and seachem root tabs. Nothing else.
At the moment I'm running diy co2.
Does this tank seem pretty messed up? I heard my lights were high tech. But my set up is low tech due to my substrate and lack of supplementation. So what do I do to make it low tech? Do I need to throw everything out?

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Old 04-19-2015, 05:40 PM   #2
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Really you only need to cut down on the light.
Screen wire/fiberglass type cut it by about 30% or you can raise it.
Less hrs does almost the same thing.
What size tank is it ?
And a whole tank picture will help.
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75g tank. How long should I leave the lights on to make my tank low tech? Do I need to dose anything?
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:37 PM   #4
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I used to have the lights at 10 hours, but they were very weak lights. Now my lights are for 7 hours and I reduced the intensity of my tank. See below for specs. How high is the tank?

I was told that you can't go below 6 hours. I'd start at 8, and reduce the intensity of the lights. It's kind of a trial and error thing - go slow with changes (except intensity, assuming it's way too high) and see how the plants respond.

I started using 1/2 Estimated Index for ferts sometime in the winter. The plants seem to grow faster.

My best guess for you is to get the lights dialed in and start fertilizing. Dry ferts are much cheaper than liquid. Some members sell it here.

If you do EI, 50% water change weekly.

Good luck with it!
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The link you provided does not work for me. But in anycase, I have a 75 gal with 48" Fluval full spectrum LED. No CO2. I have an amazon sword too and it's doing very fine. Something must be out of balance. As Raymond S. mentionned, a picture or two would help.
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Can anyone tell me how to fix my tank?
I have like a mix of high tech and low tech going on in there.
For plants, I have radicans, swords, swarf saggitaria, java, and anubias.
For lights I use this:http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GH9HURE

For substrate I use mostly gravel and a tiny bit of flourite.
For nutrients, I just use waste from my fish and seachem root tabs. Nothing else.
At the moment I'm running diy co2.
Does this tank seem pretty messed up? I heard my lights were high tech. But my set up is low tech due to my substrate and lack of supplementation. So what do I do to make it low tech? Do I need to throw everything out?
Didn't work for me either - broken link.

A 75 gallon tank is too big for DIY CO2. If you're growing plants in the tank, you need to keep the right amount of fertilizer for the amount of water in the tank, plus Root Tabs for the Swords and other heavy root feeders. Unfortunately I don't know about Radicans, but the remaining plants are leaf feeders or are certainly not root feeders.

I would like to see a picture too. It doesn't sound like anything's too far out of whack, except maybe the light's too intense. Do you have any algae? If there are any shadows on the substrate, I tried looking at how well-defined they are. Supposedly the more defined the shadow, the stronger the light source. You can always check it out while you're setting up your light.
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Old 04-21-2015, 01:40 AM   #7
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I used to have the lights at 10 hours, but they were very weak lights. Now my lights are for 7 hours and I reduced the intensity of my tank. See below for specs. How high is the tank?

I was told that you can't go below 6 hours. I'd start at 8, and reduce the intensity of the lights. It's kind of a trial and error thing - go slow with changes (except intensity, assuming it's way too high) and see how the plants respond.

I started using 1/2 Estimated Index for ferts sometime in the winter. The plants seem to grow faster.

My best guess for you is to get the lights dialed in and start fertilizing. Dry ferts are much cheaper than liquid. Some members sell it here.

If you do EI, 50% water change weekly.

Good luck with it!
What do you mean how high is the tank? How do i reduce the intensity of the light? There is no "dial" for it.

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Old 04-21-2015, 01:45 AM   #8
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The dark spots are made by putting a piece of colored plastic directly under the lightslights. This is done for my anubias, and java fern.
There are diatoms on my crypts, swords.
I have green colored algae on my rocks and decorations.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:16 AM   #9
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How many hrs is the light on for ?
You can have lower hrs and still view it if you start the light at 1P.M. till 8P.M.
for example.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:14 AM   #10
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The light is on for about 8 hours before. Now i removed the diy co2. And changed thelighting period to 7. Should i add eco complete to the bottom of my tank so it covers the white gravel.
The mixed colored gravel was old and before i had a planted tank.
I dont want to tear this tank down and rebuild since that will mess up my nitrogen cycle.
So how should i make my tank low tank without spending a fortune and redoing everything?
Thanks for the help!
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:29 AM   #11
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Once you took out the CO2 it already is low tech.
The color of the sub is just personal preference. If you sprinkle a hand full each day till it's covered it won't mess up the cycle. Maybe skip a day in between each hand full.
More then anything else you could use some more plants. Do it slowly without rushing it.
I'd use simple plants. Like go out from the left end 3" and 4" from the back and plant one regular(not the Oak Leaf) Water Sprite and meanwhile start looking at the pictures in the gallery for plants that you like the way they look. But do read up on any you pick or you will spend money on plants that need things your tank doesn't have.
Like getting a Crypt Balansae which can get 30" tall.
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Old 04-21-2015, 07:07 AM   #12
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I was asking about how tall the tank is. The taller the tank, the more the light dissipates before it gets to the substrate. It doesn't look like that's your problem, though. I've found that if the light is too high the plants don't grow very much. But that's just my experience and it could just as easily been lack of nutrients. The plants are doing well with my lighting raised a considerable amount. They are strong lights. If your light had a dimmer switch on it, it would be easy to adjust the light intensity without physically moving the light.

You can use the method Raymond S. suggested, using fiberglas window screen under the light. I'm pretty sure he mentioned it.
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So I need to use fiberglass on the lights to make the tank low tech? Should I dose any supplementation?
Right now my sword leaves are quite pale and translucent
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If I use fiber glass, how long should my lights be left on for?
Is it better to use fiber glass or just lowering the hours of light
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High tech vs. low tech is relative....don't bother with those terms. But you are low tech at the moment. You need to find the correct balance, which can only be achieved through trial and error. Try placing the screen over the tank and leave the lights on for 7 hours. All of this takes time, so you will have to give it a week or more before you start seeing results. I would suggest dosing Excel to help, but that can get costly with a 75g.
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