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Old 12-05-2014, 11:04 PM   #1
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HC dying? Need advice. New 3 gallon tank (pictures)


Hi, I've been around this forum for a while but never posted anything. Can anyone tell me if my HC and Glossostigma are dying? I've noticed that the leaves are dying and turning yellow. Lighting 9 hours on timer and leaving co2 1 bubble/second 24 hours. I also use excel daily. I'm not sure what's missing or whether the plants aren't getting enough nutrients. Also, is this considered a high-tech tank?

Started on October 25, 2014.

Setup:

Aqua Japan 3gallon curved glass + built in filtration (Foam, ceramic rings, and Fluval carbon filter) and pump.
Finnex 10" Fugeray LED+Aqua Japan 3w hanging LED
ViaAqua Heater set to 70F degrees.
Paintball CO2 + INTENSE bubble counter built-in check valve + 2nd check valve + glass diffuser
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Black sand substrate mixed with shrimp substrate and using root tabs.
Plants: HC, glossostigma, java moss tree, willow moss rocks, and an unknown plant.
Fishes: Half Moon Betta, 3 Celestial Pearl Danios, 2 Neon Tetras, 1 Siamese Algae Eater, 4 Cherry Shrimps.












Update: I made a noob mistake, I wasn't really using any fertz besides the api root tabs and it's been only 1 month since I started my first planted tank. Anyways, I picked up some fertz at a local store and some more HC to fill in the blank spots. Here's a comparison of a healthy HC compared to mine.



New patch


Pearling the second I planted them


Re-planted them and spread them out a little better.

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Old 12-05-2014, 11:18 PM   #2
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What are you adding for fertilizer? Are you adding nitrates? How much? Can you do a nitrate test on the water?

Are you using fertilizer tabs or dirt under the substrate?

How long did the HC take to get to where it's at now from when it started going yellow and dying? Days? Weeks?

What is your lighting schedule?

Have you added any chemicals, algae fix, or forgotten to add dechlorinator?

Nice pics by the way.
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:22 PM   #3
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Not adding any fertz, not sure what to add. I'm using root tabs, substrate is black sand and some shrimp substrate. Some leaves on the glosso and hc started dying as soon as I planted them about a month ago. 9 hour lighting on a timer. I change the water half way every other week and use AquaSafe dechlorinator.
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:12 AM   #4
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The issue looks similar to a nitrogen deficiency, though it is difficult to tell with HC and glosso. Stem plants are better indicators.

Can you do a nitrate test on the water?

For fertilizing you should follow the directions laid out here: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21944

For calculations or double checking your dosage you can use this site: http://calc.petalphile.com/
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:46 AM   #5
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I don't have a tester for the nitrate level but I kind of figured my noob mistake and that is to use SOME fertz. I'm not using any fertilizers besides the API root tabs, which has only been 1 month since I started. Anyways, I will never use the API every again but instead, I'll be using the Osmocote diy style. Should of done more research. Thanks for your help anyways.
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No problem.

Just so you know, HC isn't the heaviest root feeder. It would benefit from water column fertilization.
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:15 AM   #7
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Yea, i bought some liquid fertilizer. Seachem Trace and Iron.
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Neither of those have nitrogen in them.
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I would go with pps pro for ferts. It's super easy and has worked well for me. With a tank that small, one bottle of macros and one bottle of micros would last you a seriously long time. Nilocg sells the kits here on the forum for $27. He also does EI, but I like the simplicity of pps pro.
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:39 PM   #10
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From my personal experience, HC always turns yellow and dies when I first plant it. Then after about a month it magically springs back to life.

Also, sand is not very "root friendly" because it is so dense. This causes 2 problems:

1) roots have a difficult time digging into the substrate
2) nutrients from the water does not diffuse into the substrate easily
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It's the sand, your HC Cuba doesn't have any deep roots. Just rip them up and plant deeper. It will come back....



HC Cuba .... best aquatic plant ever....
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Thanks for the advice guys. It's actually getting a little better since I used the osmocote method and purchased the Nilocg Macros and Micros fertz. My local fish store was selling them. At first, I thought they were trying to sell me their own self-made fertz but I realized that it was sold by Nilocg. Starting doing half pumps of each bottle every other day, it's actually getting better each day. Here's some pics.

This spot is quickly filling in.


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It's the sand, your HC Cuba doesn't have any deep roots. Just rip them up and plant deeper. It will come back....



HC Cuba .... best aquatic plant ever....
That is one beautiful carpet you got there, so green.
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Thanks man,

Don't worry, I think your carpet is bouncing back. I went through the same thing too...

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Ok, seems like everything is getting worse. I still see growth on the HC but why does it looks so brown. A lot of leaves and stems are dying as well as on the Glossos. I did a 50% water change and been dosing fertz. Not sure if the algae is sufficating the leaves causing them to die?






this is the third plant that I have in there, not sure of the name, but looks like nutrients deficiency?
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:45 PM   #15
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Sorry to see your HC problems. I don't have any advice there as I'm all low tech. :[

I dropped in because I would really like to find one of these tanks. I've searched for AJ-25, Aqua Japan, etc in every corner of the internet I can think of, to no avail. It looks like they may be out of business?

When/where did you get yours?

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