ADa 60p NON CO2/no excel either for 046 Zebra plecos

[Church]

Like it or not, Tom, many people think of you as a master. That's the price you pay for being so damn good at what you do.

I can't wait to see some zebra plecos!

On a related note, I just wanted to say thanks for those distance shots, so that we can see all the other tanks scattered around your house.

[Ashok]

Looking forward to seeing this tank progress.

[dantra]

Originally Posted by Church

Like it or not, Tom, many people think of you as a master. That's the price you pay for being so damn good at what you do.

Tom, I believe Church as well as many others just know that you bring and introduced critical thinking to the hobby in a widespread fashion. You ask why , when, how, correlation, causation ask about the science, statistical data so on and so forth. Not to mention you are very generous with your time and help anyone at any given time.

Jeff holds his own and and is a giant in his own right however Tom you are very analytical and outspoken. By the way, that's a good thing.

Dude it's a compliment... whether you like it or not, you're stuck with it!

Dan

[Phil Edwards]

Heya Tom,

How about some more inspiration?

http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesw...+Perfectionist

http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesw...The+Rest+of+Us


This guy does some amazing things with stone.



I like the floating mat-snag concept as well; it's the way to go with fish display aquaria. I'm looking forward to seeing this setup completed.

Regards,
Phil

[jazzlvr123]

so why did you decide on the 60p rather than your original idea for the 60 cube? after you put all that time into adding holes into that cypress. Just curious, Regards Kyle


edit
found my answer: "Nice fish, but few seem to have nice colonies and nice displays together that are designed around them. They are not well suited for large tanks, a 60p is about the largest I'd keep them in."

[roybot73]

FWIW, here's the Senske tank everyone was thinking of...

http://www.aquariumdesigngroup.com/#...=10000&s=1&p=0

I think this tank will be much more interesting with the emersed plant groupings and Zebra Plecos. Can't wait to see it stocked and planted!

[tcampbell]

I believe this is a dream tank for a lot of us (then again, having as many tanks as you have in your house would be a dream for many of use as well!)

Friends and I here in Taiwan are very interested as we have considered the same idea (a pleco only tank to slow off the species), though find the tank not that visually appealing without many plants - meaning the fish are hidden. Though at approx $200 US a fish , it L046 are out of my reach, the same could be done with L236 ("fake" Zebras) or L134 (Leopard Frog Plecos - Tan and Black)

[plantbrain]

Originally Posted by jazzlvr123

so why did you decide on the 60p rather than your original idea for the 60 cube? after you put all that time into adding holes into that cypress. Just curious, Regards Kyle


edit
found my answer: "Nice fish, but few seem to have nice colonies and nice displays together that are designed around them. They are not well suited for large tanks, a 60p is about the largest I'd keep them in."

The fish are much more suited to smaller systems.
They'd get lost in a large tank.
I'd want to add more fish and they'd have trouble finding the food.

Larger tanks are more for community based themes for myself as an aquarist.

I suppose if I had 15 large full sized adults, then the 60 cube is good.
But they are still pretty small(1"-1.5"). Be another year or two I'd say before any chance of breeding.

I'm getting a custom nice clean beveled pair of 60 cubes and then the ADA stands like this tank in the next 2 months. Both will have wet/drys and no holes this time, Eco tech wavemakers etc(already got these the other day).

Maybe the zebras will end up there later.
I have 11 Leopard frog plecos in there now and 80 Brass tertas.


Regards,
Tom Barr

[plantbrain]

Originally Posted by Phil Edwards

Heya Tom,

How about some more inspiration?

http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesw...+Perfectionist

http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesw...The+Rest+of+Us


This guy does some amazing things with stone.



I like the floating mat-snag concept as well; it's the way to go with fish display aquaria. I'm looking forward to seeing this setup completed.

Regards,
Phil

Yes, I saw this rock scape years ago, it's well known.
Good color and textures. A lot of DIY involved.

The floating snag idea takes me back to the my first aquarium with pklants actually.

I used water sprite and some rocks and the current from the Supreme Aquamaster filter (You have to be old to know what this filter is, it was way cool for me at that age to have this, I later got a n Aquaking!) to do a similar thing. Folks loved it.

Bred Malawian cichlids, water sprite grew like mad, I supplied the town for years.

Never really though of my self as a planted person.
Just thought the plants looked good, cleaned the water, gave the fish something to eat etc.

So it's a bit full circle.

Regards,
Tom Barr

[plantbrain]

BTW, I redid a 350 Gal tank yesterday and used this same sediment. Looks really nice.

Regards,
Tom Barr

[plantbrain]

I have about 100 RCS in the 60 P right now and the sprite is growing in with the moss.

I might need less light and will raise it up higher I think.

Regards,
Tom Barr

[hydrophyte]

This tank is going to be really great. When do we get to see more pictures?

I am thinking about a catfish species tank, maybe with Synodontis petricola. That one is really cool and I can keep several in the 30-gallon tank that I have in mind, but I am waiting to hear more opinions.

[Church]

Seriously, this is probably one of my favorite tanks on these forums, and it's barely even begun! I wish I could afford (and trust myself to raise!) these unique plecos. Some day, some day...

[davocean]

Very clean looking system, will be following this myself.
Jealous of the leopard frogs, can't seem to find those locally right now.
So this will be strictly Zebras?

[skratikans]

Originally Posted by plantbrain

An older tank that I had some of the idea from which I did:



But the general idea was I wanted a non CO2 tank, at least one for old time's sake. I can still use plants, but do not need to restrict their CO2 either.

It is not really a Paludarium either. The aquarium is full of water.
No dry "land", the wood snags, floating islands etc, are not land.
They move with the water level seasonally.

I really love this tank, what types of plants did you have in that pic? I love them!