Eheim now made in China.. any good?

[belladee]

I did a ton of recearch and decided on the Eheim classic for my 75 gallon. When I got to the store the guy told me that the Eheims are being returned a lot. He also told me that they were once great when they were made in Germany but now that they are made in China not so great....

I also noticed that this filter was priced less then the Rena and the Fuval.

any comments/opinions on this?

[Left C]

I've seen some Chinese copies of Eheim Pro II's, but they did not have the Eheim name on them.

[jmhart]

Eheim knock-offs coming out of China are poor quality, but if you run Eheim(Germany) side by side against Eheim(china) you'll see notice no difference.

http://www.petfrd.com/forum/printthr...2&page=2&pp=15


I'm pretty devoted to the Pro II series, owning 2 2128s and 1 2026, and I have absolutely no complaints. All 3 are made in china. I've even run the classic and ecco series made in china with no problems what so ever.

[epicfish]

Originally Posted by belladee

I did a ton of recearch and decided on the Eheim classic for my 75 gallon. When I got to the store the guy told me that the Eheims are being returned a lot. He also told me that they were once great when they were made in Germany but now that they are made in China not so great....

I also noticed that this filter was priced less then the Rena and the Fuval.

any comments/opinions on this?

Originally Posted by Left C

I've seen some Chinese copies of Eheim Pro II's, but they did not have the Eheim name on them.

Originally Posted by jmhart

Eheim knock-offs coming out of China are poor quality, but if you run Eheim(Germany) side by side against Eheim(china) you'll see notice no difference.

http://www.petfrd.com/forum/printthr...2&page=2&pp=15

Like Left C and jmhart said...are you those are authentic Eheim filters? AFAIK, they're all still German-made. The ones made in China are actually knock-offs and aren't the real thing.

[jmhart]

I started questioning where Eheims were made these days, and, FWIW, according to Petsmart, some are made in Germany and some in China...might be a mistake:

Classic made in Germany:
http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2753159

Pro II Thermofilter made in China:
http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2753154

Pro II made in Germany:
http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2753131

[epicfish]

Hm..well, what do you know. Guess I have to be a bit more careful now.

Thanks!

[captain_bu]

I have also never heard of Eheim's made in China. I have a number of Eheim filters here from 1 month old to 8 years old and it does not say on the boxes or in the manuals where they were made. Are the supposed "Chinese Eheims" labeled in any way as to country of manufacture? The latest 2028 manual I have here has instructions in 18 different languages but no instructions in Chinese. If they make them there they apparently do not sell them there.

[Natty]

China needs to stay away from Eheim. Whenever I go shopping, my first question is "is it made from China?".

What's messed up is I have some Chinese friends and they do the same thing . I'm Vietnamese and I try avoiding Vietnamese made stuff too. Not much confidence there.

[Rev2eight]

My 2213 from petsmart is indeed made in china. Although the shutoff valves still state that they are made in Germany. Its been trotting along fine for the past 6 months so no complaints here.

[fshfanatic]

Originally Posted by captain_bu

I have also never heard of Eheim's made in China. I have a number of Eheim filters here from 1 month old to 8 years old and it does not say on the boxes or in the manuals where they were made. Are the supposed "Chinese Eheims" labeled in any way as to country of manufacture? The latest 2028 manual I have here has instructions in 18 different languages but no instructions in Chinese. If they make them there they apparently do not sell them there.

That's because they are smart enough not to buy Chinese manufactured products as they suck.

[Left C]

The Drs have a good deal on 2126 and 2128 Eheim's. I wonder why they are closing them out?

Do you remember that a few years ago DrsF&S discontinued anything Eheim and didn't carry their line? Then months or a year later they started carrying their line of products again. That sure was odd.


Eheim Pro II Filters
CD-16059 2026 kit $299.99
CD-16058 2028 kit $349.99
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...6&pcatid=10946

CD-922105 2126 freshwater w/heater $319.99
CD-922118 2128 freshwater w/heater $379.99

CD-18678 2126 marine w/heater $329.99 $249.99
CD-18679 2128 marine w/heater $399.99 $299.99
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...17&pcatid=3617

The marine 2126 and 2128 w/heaters are $50 cheaper than the 2026 and 2028 w/o heaters.

2126: The marine model is $70 cheaper than the freshwater model.
2128: The marine model is $80 cheaper than the freshwater model.

The marine models are good deals, aren't they?


Eheim has some new models. They have the
ECCO Pro: http://www.eheimasiapacific.com/prod...r_eccopro.html
Pro 3e USB: http://www.eheimasiapacific.com/prod..._pro3eusb.html

[captain_bu]

Originally Posted by Rev2eight

My 2213 from petsmart is indeed made in china. Although the shutoff valves still state that they are made in Germany. Its been trotting along fine for the past 6 months so no complaints here.

How were you able to confirm where it was made? I can't find any country of origin labeling anywhere on the packaging or filters/parts I have here. Not sure how to avoid buying a Chinese Eheim if they aren't labeled.

[Rev2eight]

Originally Posted by captain_bu

How were you able to confirm where it was made? I can't find any country of origin labeling anywhere on the packaging or filters/parts I have here. Not sure how to avoid buying a Chinese Eheim if they aren't labeled.

Bottom of the box states "made in PRC" or People's Republic of China. Unless ive mistaken that acronym and it means something totally different. Ironically, the german made shut off valves started leaking only after two months of use. Luckly i had an older set laying around. They certainly dont make them like they used to i suppose

[PDX-PLT]

Originally Posted by fshfanatic

That's because they are smart enough not to buy Chinese manufactured products as they suck.

Really? Apple iPods are made in China. I've never heard anyone say "they suck". My Thinkpad notebook is made in China, and it's about as high-end as you can get.

Country of manufacture means nothing. What counts is the design specification, and how well the factory follows those specs (e.g., ISO 9001).

[Left C]

I wish that Dr. W. Edwards Deming was still alive and he could go to China to help with China's quality control issues. He was the one that helped Japan to produce excellent products after WWII.