Micro Sump - for Nano Planted tanks

digger · 08-12-2003, 02:41 AM

I've never done this before, but it seems that something like this ought to work. What does everybody think?

mario · 08-12-2003, 04:20 AM

Digger, this would not quite work out, since you would lose the syphon between the tank and the overflow box. You need to add a box inside the tank as well and have a hose syphon between the little box inside the tank and outside the tank.

I'm not really that good with explanations, but I'm even worse with drawing. If it's still unclear I'll try and draw something up in the morning.

Cheers... mario

Here is a link to overflow box.

digger · 08-12-2003, 03:16 PM

Mario, I thought since that box on the back has the drain on the side, I can always maintain a minimum of water in that box, that way neither end of the siphon would be exposed to the air.

Wasserpest · 08-12-2003, 03:35 PM

Thanks guys, that makes sense. Diggers design works if the water in the tank never goes below the overflow pipe. However, I am concerned with all the bubbling going on in my tank I could loose syphon, consequentially the contents of the sump would be pumped into the tank, leading to overflowing and a dried fried pump. I guess that is just the risk of the design.

digger · 08-12-2003, 06:39 PM

Oh! I never considered that. Why are you adverse to drilling the tank?

Wasserpest · 08-12-2003, 06:43 PM

Uhm... because it is made out of glass. Glass is hard. Breaks easily. Thickness is calculated to withstand a certain pressure. If you drill holes in it you are reducing that stability. Tempered glass can not be drilled. Drilling thick glass is no fun. My lfs wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.
Etc etc etc :roll: :lol:

08-12-2003, 03:35 PM	#19
Wasserpest Are these real? (View User Tanks) PTrader: (140/100%) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 14,648	Thanks guys, that makes sense. Diggers design works if the water in the tank never goes below the overflow pipe. However, I am concerned with all the bubbling going on in my tank I could loose syphon, consequentially the contents of the sump would be pumped into the tank, leading to overflowing and a dried fried pump. I guess that is just the risk of the design. __________________ All my tanks Autodosing Water Change Temperature Monitoring Cheap Filter The Wasser-Controller

08-12-2003, 06:43 PM	#21
Wasserpest Are these real? (View User Tanks) PTrader: (140/100%) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 14,648	Uhm... because it is made out of glass. Glass is hard. Breaks easily. Thickness is calculated to withstand a certain pressure. If you drill holes in it you are reducing that stability. Tempered glass can not be drilled. Drilling thick glass is no fun. My lfs wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. Etc etc etc :roll: :lol: __________________ All my tanks Autodosing Water Change Temperature Monitoring Cheap Filter The Wasser-Controller

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08-12-2003, 02:41 AM	#16
digger Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 519	I've never done this before, but it seems that something like this ought to work. What does everybody think?

08-12-2003, 04:20 AM	#17
mario Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 287	Digger, this would not quite work out, since you would lose the syphon between the tank and the overflow box. You need to add a box inside the tank as well and have a hose syphon between the little box inside the tank and outside the tank. I'm not really that good with explanations, but I'm even worse with drawing. If it's still unclear I'll try and draw something up in the morning. Cheers... mario Here is a link to overflow box.

08-12-2003, 03:16 PM	#18
digger Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 519	Mario, I thought since that box on the back has the drain on the side, I can always maintain a minimum of water in that box, that way neither end of the siphon would be exposed to the air.

08-12-2003, 06:39 PM	#20
digger Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 519	Oh! I never considered that. Why are you adverse to drilling the tank?