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Old 10-05-2008, 07:13 PM   #1
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Complexity Journal: 29g / Low Tech with breeding pair of Pelvicachromis


This is just a stub for now. I took a quick picture of my 20L the other day so I thought I'd post it.

I will switch the 20L tank to a 29g tank when I move in a few weeks. For now, the 20L is in horrible condition. No CO2 or ferts. No scape. Just a few plants and lots of GSA.

I have a lot of work I want to do with this tank. It'll be fun to see the transformation from what it is now to what I hope for it to become.

My 20L tank's very humble beginnings.

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Old 12-04-2008, 05:11 PM   #2
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Hey Vicki, I love all the colors in this tank too! I can't wait to see it "grow" into a 29

How is that project coming? Has it started or are you still getting the 75 settled?

Can't wait to see this stub turn into a journal!
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:06 PM   #3
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I'm working on it, and the big day should be coming soon, maybe next week.

Right now, I'm at the stage of collecting all of the equipment I need for the tank. I almost have everything I need or have at least ordered it.

I have the injected CO2 system ready to go (pulled it from my 75g). Orlando is making the reactor for me which should come in early next week. I'm looking at getting a second XP2 filter soon. I already have a smaller UVS that would do well for this tank. I've ordered more substrate. And the 29g tank itself is finally empty of fish and plants from the move. I just need to clean it out now. I already have the stand, canopy, and extra lighting. I have new electrical outlet strips for my 75g which will let me then move the ones I'm using on that tank to my 29g.

So once the reactor comes in, I should be able to switch out the tanks and start injecting CO2. Hopefully, I can make the switch sometime next week.

I'm trying to figure out how I want to do the scape. I don't want it to be the same as my 75g, but I still like the basic aspects of that type of scape. It's also a bit of a challenge because it's more natural for me to have the focal point on the left side of the tank, but that wouldn't do well with the position of the tank in the room. I'm thinking of having the far right corner be the actual focal point with everything drifting towards the front left corner. I think that might make the best use of the smaller space.

The plants that have the reddish color in this tank are my Crypt wendtii 'bronze'. I sometimes wonder if this is the 'red' species instead of the 'bronze'. These crypts have gone wild even though I never dose ferts or CO2. I'm going to have to sell some of the extras since I have far too many to use in a scape with other plants.

I'll try to take pictures as I go so we can all enjoy the transformation. I think it's fun to see the before and after pictures when a tank is scaped.
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:52 PM   #4
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Sounds good! Does the fact that you pulled the injected CO2 from the 75 mean you are no longer dosing CO2 in that tank? Or am i misunderstanding?

I definitely agree that it is really fun to see before and after pictures, I look forward to seeing them for this tank once you get the rest of your equipment together, or rather once it comes i!

It does look to me like you have more of a 'red' than a 'bronze' crypt forest in there, crypts grow really well for me too! Do you know what the K rating on that light is? I have some crypts that are supposed to be red, and looked quite red in the store, but once I got them in my tank, the really washed out so I'm wondering what K rating you are using, I'm thinking that is my problem. They look beautiful and healthy, I might have to keep my eye on the SnS for some as a red/bronze comparison
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:42 PM   #5
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I'm still dosing CO2 in my 75g. Both tanks will have injected CO2.

What I did was put the new cylinder and equipment to the 75g and hand down the older cylinder and equipment to the 29g. Once I saw how wonderful it was to have injected CO2, I couldn't NOT add it to my 29g. In a way, the 29g will be a smaller version of my 75g.

The lighting I have on my 20long in the picture above is one dual bulb Coralife Aqualight FW 30" fixture. This fixture is about a year old with one 6700K T5 bulb and one 10,000K T5 bulb. Now they're using a "Colormax" bulb in place of the 10,000K bulb. Mine went out about a month ago, and I decided to replace it with the original 10,000K bulb. So that bulb is new with the 6700K being old.

I now have two of those fixtures (the second fixture has the Colormax bulb instead of the 10,000K bulb). That's what I'll use as my brighter lighting for the 29g. It won't be as bright as my 75g, but it should be bright enough to grow what I want.
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Sounds pretty good! It must be the 10k bulb, I'll have to see what I can find for that, I really want to bring out my reds more in all tanks. Thanks for the input!

I can't wait to see the 29 once it gets started!
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:37 PM   #7
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I walked over to look at the crypts, and I think one thing that's making them look like they do in pictures is because the light in the tank is making them a bit translucent so the red stands out. The leaves are not translucent, of course, but it's kind of like shining a flashlight through your hand. Suddenly, the red shows up more.

I think the best way to bring out reds in a tank is to plant plants that have a very bold red, such as 'Sao Paulo'. Now that's a red plant!

I can't wait to get the 29g going either. I have it sitting on the floor next to the 20long, empty and ready to go. I have a few more things I need to order to get it all set up, but I may proceed without those things just to get the process going.
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Wow what a ton of stuff I just started my first planted 29 gallon. I'm really anxious to see how yours looks once it's all set up.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:48 PM   #9
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Hmmm it could definitely have to do with the light shining through the leaves, but mine don't show up red even in pictures. Perhaps I am not using a good setting on my camera? I'd love to plant a very bold red but it would never make it in my tanks! And before you say it, I don't have the $$ or time at the moment to go high-tech I planted the sunset hygro in my 5.5 and 30g tanks, it and the 'rosanervig' i already had in both tanks have really bright pink leaves on the tops of the stems. I still have more that I want to try in the 20, I'll be curious to see how the pink looks in there compared to the other tanks.

I know you're excited about starting this tank so I'll be waiting (as patiently as I can) for pictures of the progress!
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Well, I'm officially starting to work on the 29g!

I've moved the 20long to another stand, have the background on the 29g, and have it on the main stand. I've added some eggcrate to the bottom and am working on the driftwood design. I'll try to take a quick picture to show the early stage of the tank.
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Sounds great! Can't wait to see the setup progress pictures!

What is eggrate and what purpose does it serve if you don't mind my asking? I assume you don't mean the cardboard or foam mattress pad kind so you got me curious!
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Eggcrate is a plastic sheeting normally used as a diffuser for commercial fluorescent lights in offices. It has a network of squares.

It's used to help protect the bottom of the tank. It's more commonly used for tanks with large, stacked rocks, such as a cichlid tank, in case the fish knock the rocks down. Even though my tanks aren't at high risk, I still like to put it at the bottom for extra security. If nothing else, it makes me feel better while moving rocks and things around as I play with design ideas. Placing rocks on bare glass makes me cringe.

You can see the eggcrate in the pictures I'm about to post, especially the last one.
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And here are the first pictures of the 29g design!

Of course, I started with the driftwood. It's my favorite part of my tanks. I love having the branches rise up towards the top where I can easily see my amano shrimp on them.

I had bought the driftwood several months ago when they were first offered. I think this was one of the "branchiest" packages I've seen offered. I may have to trim out a few of the smaller branches, but maybe not.

In all of the pictures, the wood is placed further to the left than it will be in the end. I'm having to use the glass on the left to hold it in place for pictures.

I started off wanting to create a leaning design from the back/right to the front/left, but then I found the branch on the left and loved the way it curved over.

Trying to get the branches glued together in the form I wanted was a bit of a challenge, but the final results came out pretty close to what I wanted.



The position of the tank in the room makes it's main display to be somewhat offset to the left. So the overall design will be more closed on the back/right and more open towards the front/left.



This angle starts to show the branches on the far left piece a little bit better.



While playing with the various pieces of wood I have, I stumbled into this piece that I think looks cool at the base of the main wood. I'll have to raise it up so it's not completely blocked by plants, but I think it adds some character to the overall wood design.

The rock is in there mainly to hold the wood in place, but it is one of the rocks I may use in the final design. I don't have any fancy rocks so the regular bullnose rocks will have to do.

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That's a fantastic piece of wood you've got there! I'm looking forward to seeing this come together.
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Thank you! There are actually 3 branches glued together to make the main DW display with a 4th branch at the bottom.
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