Mixture backfired into tank!!

Rygel · 03-29-2004, 01:52 PM

Well, my check valve failed and my mixture spilled into my tank. I don't think it was much but its has clouded up the water.

I did a 25% water change last night after I saw it. This morning (even with the CO2 removed completely) the tank was cloudier then before.

So, I did another 25% change this morning.

How screwed am I?

I've got 5 dwarf puffers in there 'd hate to lose!!

Thanks.

ninoboy · 03-29-2004, 02:00 PM

You need to change more water man. More like 50% for the next few days to completely take out the solution. How big is the tank and the CO2 bottle? I don't think the check valve would stop the solution from going into the tank. It protects the other end (tank to bottle). Where did you connect the CO2 output to?

Rygel · 03-29-2004, 03:02 PM

Tank is 10 gallon. Bottle was a 2 liter soda bottle. Either the cat or I knocked it over at some point.

CO2 was going into the uptake on my Pequin mini

ninoboy · 03-29-2004, 03:37 PM

Yeah, that thing acts exactly like real soda when you knock it over. It will create pressure and burst to the top. That's why I use gas seperator. I experimented knocking over the bottle and the solution filled up the gas seperator.

I had some solution went in to my tank before but not much. I change the water 3 days in a row. Also ran carbon media in my filter. I'm not sure though whether the carbon could absorb and alcohol and contaminants from the solution. I just used it anyway. No dead fish

Rygel · 03-29-2004, 05:09 PM

Yeah, I put a new filter in this morning. It has the charcoal built in.

I'm going to need to rethink the setup in case that happens again. Although I may secure the bottle so that it doesn't have a chance to fall over.

Rygel · 03-30-2004, 12:56 AM

I think I am royally frelled!! I came home from work and its worse then ever! I don't have the CO2 connected! The yeast must be multiplying!!

I just did a 50% change and still no good. I put 2 pairs of panty hose over the outflow try and filter out the yeast. Doesn't look like its working,

So far I've only lost a couple of my new shrimp but I fear it may get worse!

2la · 03-30-2004, 01:04 AM

Round up your fish into a large container temporarily, and then do a 100% water change in the tank. Scoop out a corner of the gravel so that the water level goes all the way down to the bottom glass, and refill. Then replace the fish into the tank.

Rolo · 03-30-2004, 07:11 PM

Ha that is correct. They are multiplying. I had a very minor siphoning of the yeast solution in my tank, no more than a teaspoon, and in a week it bloomed into a huge mess. I agree with tula, 100% water change is about the most practical solution now. BTW, a check valve only protects from water going into your bottles, not the other way.

2la · 03-31-2004, 12:10 AM

Forgot to mention: Don't forget to unplug your heaters prior to dropping the water line below the level of the heating elements, then allow them about 15 minutes to re-equilibrate after refilling the tank, before plugging them in. Clean out your filters in dechlorinated water, too.

Kris · 03-31-2004, 08:37 PM

this happened to me earlier this week. i don't have any control valves or anything, the mix was too much and "grew" into the hose.
it was crazy. i changed at least 50% of my water and things calmed down. now, though i need to remake the mix...
off to find the recipe

03-30-2004, 07:11 PM	#8
Rolo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 1,716	Ha that is correct. They are multiplying. I had a very minor siphoning of the yeast solution in my tank, no more than a teaspoon, and in a week it bloomed into a huge mess. I agree with tula, 100% water change is about the most practical solution now. BTW, a check valve only protects from water going into your bottles, not the other way. __________________

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03-29-2004, 01:52 PM	#1
Rygel Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 22	Well, my check valve failed and my mixture spilled into my tank. I don't think it was much but its has clouded up the water. I did a 25% water change last night after I saw it. This morning (even with the CO2 removed completely) the tank was cloudier then before. So, I did another 25% change this morning. How screwed am I? I've got 5 dwarf puffers in there 'd hate to lose!! Thanks.

03-29-2004, 02:00 PM	#2
ninoboy Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Las Vegas , Nevada Posts: 1,261	You need to change more water man. More like 50% for the next few days to completely take out the solution. How big is the tank and the CO2 bottle? I don't think the check valve would stop the solution from going into the tank. It protects the other end (tank to bottle). Where did you connect the CO2 output to?

03-29-2004, 03:02 PM	#3
Rygel Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 22	Tank is 10 gallon. Bottle was a 2 liter soda bottle. Either the cat or I knocked it over at some point. CO2 was going into the uptake on my Pequin mini

03-29-2004, 03:37 PM	#4
ninoboy Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Las Vegas , Nevada Posts: 1,261	Yeah, that thing acts exactly like real soda when you knock it over. It will create pressure and burst to the top. That's why I use gas seperator. I experimented knocking over the bottle and the solution filled up the gas seperator. I had some solution went in to my tank before but not much. I change the water 3 days in a row. Also ran carbon media in my filter. I'm not sure though whether the carbon could absorb and alcohol and contaminants from the solution. I just used it anyway. No dead fish

03-29-2004, 05:09 PM	#5
Rygel Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 22	Yeah, I put a new filter in this morning. It has the charcoal built in. I'm going to need to rethink the setup in case that happens again. Although I may secure the bottle so that it doesn't have a chance to fall over.

03-30-2004, 12:56 AM	#6
Rygel Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 22	I think I am royally frelled!! I came home from work and its worse then ever! I don't have the CO2 connected! The yeast must be multiplying!! I just did a 50% change and still no good. I put 2 pairs of panty hose over the outflow try and filter out the yeast. Doesn't look like its working, So far I've only lost a couple of my new shrimp but I fear it may get worse!

03-30-2004, 01:04 AM	#7
2la Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 993	Round up your fish into a large container temporarily, and then do a 100% water change in the tank. Scoop out a corner of the gravel so that the water level goes all the way down to the bottom glass, and refill. Then replace the fish into the tank.

03-31-2004, 12:10 AM	#9
2la Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 993	Forgot to mention: Don't forget to unplug your heaters prior to dropping the water line below the level of the heating elements, then allow them about 15 minutes to re-equilibrate after refilling the tank, before plugging them in. Clean out your filters in dechlorinated water, too.

03-31-2004, 08:37 PM	#10
Kris Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: grapevine, tx Posts: 537	this happened to me earlier this week. i don't have any control valves or anything, the mix was too much and "grew" into the hose. it was crazy. i changed at least 50% of my water and things calmed down. now, though i need to remake the mix... off to find the recipe