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Old 05-21-2014, 12:26 AM   #1
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my first planted tank,,,,,the great,,,,,,,,,180G


hi, this is the thread for the progression of my 180 gallon planted turtle tank (don't worry its a musk turtle they generally do well with plants). I have been lurking for awhile and I have been trying to obtain the most knowledge possible. I got the tank off craigslist for $300 and he threw in a wet/dry filter for an extra $20. me and my dad built a stand for the tank out of 2x6s and 4x4s. for the lighting im looking at some t5HO grow lights off [Ebay Link Removed] I haven't looked at heating yet but ill get there . I got a piece of driftwood from the beach. for the theme I made a drawing that was the most ugly things ive ever seen . but here is where I am now.
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:38 AM   #2
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Welcome to TPT!

What a great tank, I'm jealous!

Are you planning on setting this up with pressurized CO2 and go high tech, or stay low tech with it?
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:45 PM   #3
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lauraleellbp, i'm not sure. I mite just use flourish excel. how affective is it? and are the flourish root tabs good? if not ive heard some good things about rootmedic but I cant seem to find where I can buy there root tabs. I'm definitely going to use root tabs because I am going to use pool filter sand for substrate.
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also, are there any affordable substrates that look like pool filter sand but carry nutrients? and is 2wpg of t5ho grow lights enough light?
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:28 PM   #5
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There is always the choice of putting in dirt underneath your sand, then adding sand as a cap. This allows for nutrients while the sand prevents the dirt from leeching too much into the water. 2wpg is enough for most plants. You'll find that that should be more than sufficient for most plants.
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:17 PM   #6
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that's a great answer mistuhmark. the reason I cant do that is because my musk turtle is going in this tank and he likes to play in the sand. he will mix the substrate and cloudy up the water.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:18 AM   #7
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this is my turtle nugget
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Yessssss, another musk turtle tank.

You guys are slowly but very surely making me want one XD
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:59 AM   #9
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hybridherp, you shoud totally get one. there awsoooome and have the funniest and most interesting personalities. they also stay small and there poop fertilizes the plants. they wont harm the plants or fish as long as the fish isn't already about to die!
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lauraleellbp, i'm not sure. I mite just use flourish excel. how affective is it? and are the flourish root tabs good? if not ive heard some good things about rootmedic but I cant seem to find where I can buy there root tabs. I'm definitely going to use root tabs because I am going to use pool filter sand for substrate.
Dosing Excel would be EXTREMELY expensive on a tank this size.

Flourish root tabs are good, but also would end up expensive over time.

Rootmedic I'm pretty sure is out of business.

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also, are there any affordable substrates that look like pool filter sand but carry nutrients? and is 2wpg of t5ho grow lights enough light?
You might try Turface or SafeTsorb, though both may be too lightweight to stand up to a turtle? Most of the heavier commercial substrates branded for aquarium use will run around $2/lb. That will add up fast. Pool filter sand (or possibly Ceramaquartz) to cap some Miracle Gro is the direction I'd probably go in your shoes.

2 wpg of T5HO will be a HUGE amount of light over this tank, you would absolutely have to have a very good pressurized CO2 setup (possibly two due to the tank size?) to keep up with that much light.

I would worry about a turtle trying to climb or bumping into CO2 equipment... I think I would go low light/low tech with this tank due to the turtle.
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:10 PM   #11
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forgive me if im wrong but wouldn't it cost only $8 a month to dose this tank with excel daily?
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Old 05-22-2014, 05:30 PM   #12
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could I use a scaled up version of the diy co2? like 4 of them each with a gallon jug instead of a 2L bottle. if they lasted 2 weeks I would start 2 of them then after a week I would start the next 2 to try and stabilize the co2 output. and yes I am willing to mix yeast and sugar once a week. if this is not enough I will raise the lights because I really dot want pressurized co2.
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with 180g, diy co2 is really impractical. you'll need more than 4 1 gallon jugs, and to get the proper concentration throughout the tank would be difficult. cost will add up over time (sugar, specific yeast to get optimum co2 ouput for diy...) if you're sure on not going pressurized, raise the lights enough for your plants. excel cost will also add up over time, its mostly water anyways...
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:34 AM   #14
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I read a thread on a different forum about a guy using 10 2 liter bottles for a diy set up for his 180. he alternated the jugs so that his ppm didn't fluctuate that much from 30. it cost him $20 and an extra $4 a month. he showed a video of when he first started and in 9 days he showed another and his plants grew tremendously in those 9 days. so i'll try it and tell you guys how it works.
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:43 AM   #15
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You could always use metricide in place of Excel. It's the same thing at a fraction of the cost. I buy the quarts from Amazon but they appear to be out of stock atm. Here's the gallon size

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