2 1/2 gallon planted tank with shrimp questions - Eco-System

lokobreed · 03-23-2004, 10:28 PM

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I have a 2 1/2 gallon glass fish tank with a glass lid.

I want to make this tank planted with a few plants and with 2 amano shrimp, 2 ghost shrimp (to take care of the algae) and 2 other type of shrimp that will clean up the bottom? Anyone know a shrimp that cleans the bottom?

If I have 4 algae eating shrimp and 2 bottom feeding shrimp in a plantd tank, could this be an Eco-System where I really dont have to feed or change water in this tank as the Shrimp will clean the bottom as well as take care of the plants?

Thanks

Wasserpest · 03-23-2004, 11:27 PM

Here we had a similar discussion: http://www.plantedtank.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2784

There are a few more dealing with flower vases as closed systems etc, do a search on ecosystem, for example.

Wasserpest · 03-23-2004, 11:39 PM

Ghost shrimps would be good bottom feeders. But. If you don't intent to feed or change the water, they would probably - slowly - starve to death. In a regular tank, where you feed regularly, they can live off whatever falls down to the bottom. I think in a bigger tank it might work...

lokobreed · 03-23-2004, 11:44 PM

See I was hoping it would be where I wouldnt have to do water changes, keep heater, or filter either...

I was hoping it owuld be a balanced System where the light would provide enought light and heat for the plants to grow and keep the water at around 72-74 degrees F.

Then keep like 4 algae eating shrimp and 2 bottom feeding shrimp (Ghost) to where the 4 algea eating shrimp would produce waste and the bottom feeding shrimp would clean it up...

Does anyone know how I could do such a thing like this?

Daemonfly · 03-24-2004, 04:32 AM

Whats the problem with changing some water in a 2.5g? With just some shrimp, you could let it go for a while, but changing water does more than just get rid of built-up nasties. With no filter or anything else for water movement, you might also have a problem with lack of oxygen for the shrimp.

Key thing wrong with your plan is that most bottom feeders don't eat waste, i.e. poop. They "bottom feed" on whatever actual food settles to the bottom.

lokobreed · 03-24-2004, 01:58 PM

The problem isnt me not wanting to change the water, its I want to create a system and accomplish it where they are able to live on their own without water change etc...

The air would be there, I would not fill the tank up to the top, I would leave about 1 1/2 inch of air then seal the lid...

Do you think this could work?

03-23-2004, 11:27 PM	#2
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Wasserpest Are these real? (View User Tanks) PTrader: (140/100%) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 14,671	Ghost shrimps would be good bottom feeders. But. If you don't intent to feed or change the water, they would probably - slowly - starve to death. In a regular tank, where you feed regularly, they can live off whatever falls down to the bottom. I think in a bigger tank it might work... __________________ All my tanks Autodosing Water Change Temperature Monitoring Cheap Filter The Wasser-Controller

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03-23-2004, 10:28 PM	#1
lokobreed Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 524	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a 2 1/2 gallon glass fish tank with a glass lid. I want to make this tank planted with a few plants and with 2 amano shrimp, 2 ghost shrimp (to take care of the algae) and 2 other type of shrimp that will clean up the bottom? Anyone know a shrimp that cleans the bottom? If I have 4 algae eating shrimp and 2 bottom feeding shrimp in a plantd tank, could this be an Eco-System where I really dont have to feed or change water in this tank as the Shrimp will clean the bottom as well as take care of the plants? Thanks

03-23-2004, 11:44 PM	#4
lokobreed Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 524	See I was hoping it would be where I wouldnt have to do water changes, keep heater, or filter either... I was hoping it owuld be a balanced System where the light would provide enought light and heat for the plants to grow and keep the water at around 72-74 degrees F. Then keep like 4 algae eating shrimp and 2 bottom feeding shrimp (Ghost) to where the 4 algea eating shrimp would produce waste and the bottom feeding shrimp would clean it up... Does anyone know how I could do such a thing like this?

03-24-2004, 04:32 AM	#5
Daemonfly Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 355	Whats the problem with changing some water in a 2.5g? With just some shrimp, you could let it go for a while, but changing water does more than just get rid of built-up nasties. With no filter or anything else for water movement, you might also have a problem with lack of oxygen for the shrimp. Key thing wrong with your plan is that most bottom feeders don't eat waste, i.e. poop. They "bottom feed" on whatever actual food settles to the bottom.

03-24-2004, 01:58 PM	#6
lokobreed Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 524	The problem isnt me not wanting to change the water, its I want to create a system and accomplish it where they are able to live on their own without water change etc... The air would be there, I would not fill the tank up to the top, I would leave about 1 1/2 inch of air then seal the lid... Do you think this could work?