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Old 03-08-2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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I'm completely frustrated and about ready to give up


Everything was going great for several weeks. My plants were lush and growing right before my eyes. Then the water started turning green and I can't get rid if it. I kept the light off for a week but didn't do a total black out. I then did a 90% WC, this gave me 2 weeks before I couldn't see 4" inside the tank. Since then I have done 50% WC every 5 days. The tank is so cloudy after 3 days I can't see 12 inches.

I don't know where to start and about ready to break it down and go plastic plants!

Please help, I really do not want to throw in the towel.
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:50 AM   #2
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Why not actually try a total black out? Has worked for me, and many others...

Or you could try the willow branch trick. Cut off a willow tree branch, stick the cut end into the tank, and it'll suck up nutrients and starve the green water.

Or there's always the more expensive route of buying a UV sterilizer.
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:57 AM   #3
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I started this tank on Dec 12, 2013.

Original water parameters and equipment:
  • RODI
  • CO2, approx 25 to 30 ppm
  • 2.5 WPG t8 shop lights
  • PPS PRO Ferts
  • 81 deg F
  • Fishless cycling at 1.00 ppm ammonia
  • Completed fishless cycle approx. Feb 1st

Upon completion of fishless cycle, I added 8 fish over the period of a week.

I added a more powerful light fixture to help bring out the red in some of my plants. A t5HO that has 2.0, 4.0, and 6.0 wpg modes. I used 4.0 mode.

I added aeration to keep water more favorable for my fish.

About 2 weeks after adding the fish and aeration the water started to cloud up. After the water clouded up enough I stopped aeration and moved fish back to their original tank.

Since then I have been plagued with Green Water!

I have reduced the lighting to 2.0 wpg and stopped adding fertilizer.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:03 PM   #4
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Why not actually try a total black out? Has worked for me, and many others...

Or you could try the willow branch trick. Cut off a willow tree branch, stick the cut end into the tank, and it'll suck up nutrients and starve the green water.

Or there's always the more expensive route of buying a UV sterilizer.
I have been doing some research and a total black out is probably going to happen this weekend.

I have an old Marineland HOT with a pleated micron filter that I've read that will remove the algae that comprises the green water. I am missing a couple parts though, so I either have to rig it up or order the missing parts: intake strainer, clips on intake, out flow tubes.

I have looked into a diatom filter as well as a UV sterilizer. My question is, do they work and if so, which ones work?
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:48 PM   #5
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I also failed by trying to fix it with a thousand water changes. And then I left the lights off for a few days and that worked. Do a big water change before black out.


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I added a more powerful light fixture to help bring out the red in some of my plants. A t5HO that has 2.0, 4.0, and 6.0 wpg modes. I used 4.0 mode. izer.
This may be part of the problem. If you went from low-med light to high light it can cause all sorts of problems with algae or bacterial blooms.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:51 PM   #7
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Just get a UV. It will clear up in a few days and the water will be so clear you'll have to check to see if there is in in fact water in it.

NH3 release is usually the reason for GW. Your adding NH3 and then running lights to help the plants grow? It usually takes a few weeks but not surprised you have GW.
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UV sterilizer did the trick for me. Put it in the tank and within a week my green water was gone.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:45 PM   #9
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As stated above a UV sterilizer will fix your problem. I run them on all my aquariums and they work wonders!! Not only will it kill single cell algae it will kill and help prevent diseases and parasites. I buy mine from amazon they usually have some good deals. Depending on the size of your aquarium there are a few canister filters made by SunSun that have built in 9w sterilizer , I own one of these as well and it works great and save you from haveing to have yet something else plugged in.

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They also make the green machine ones if you don't mind it in the tank. They are cheaper to. A UV filter will work and also get some purigen that will help to

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Old 03-08-2014, 02:15 PM   #11
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High light and,ferts all new tanks will face algae blooms sooner or later. Uv always stops mine and usually works within the first few hours. By the next morning your fish will look like they are floating

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Old 03-08-2014, 04:19 PM   #12
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OK, it sounds like I shouldn't jump off the ledge just yet.

A UV sterilizer would work in a salt water tank too if the mood ever hit me to try salt water?

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...cmpid=PPC-G-NA

So, for a 55 gallon tank the X3 would work? What about if I upgraded to a 90 or 125 gallon later?

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...tid=9372&rel=1

Would this be the pump that you would suggest? I can't tell if the pre filter comes with it or not. the PM5 would match the 500 gallon output of the uv sterilizer.

So, I would just need the tubing and a pre filter.
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Amazon.com: SunSun HW-304B 5-Stage External Canister Filter with 9-watt UV Sterilizer, 525 GPH: Pet Supplies Amazon.com: SunSun HW-304B 5-Stage External Canister Filter with 9-watt UV Sterilizer, 525 GPH: Pet Supplies

Would this work? This would be cheaper and I would be able to have filtration in addition.
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Amazon.com: SunSun HW-304B 5-Stage External Canister Filter with 9-watt UV Sterilizer, 525 GPH: Pet Supplies

Would this work? This would be cheaper and I would be able to have filtration in addition.
The sunsun 304b moves too much water and too quickly past the 9w sterilizer to be adequately efficient. It may still work, but it would take a long time.

I use a 9w Green Killing Machine and it works perfectly.

The Green Killing machine goes inside the tank and has its own pump. the water moves past the UV at the perfect rate. It took 24 hours to kill my algae bloom. I then took out the Green Killing Machine from the tank since it was't needed anymore. I haven't needed it again, but it's there if I ever do.
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I will be busy for several hours, so if I don't respond immediately, I will when I return. Thanks
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