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Old 01-26-2014, 02:17 AM   #1
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A Tank in Search of an Occupant


I have this 20 gallon and I decided to try a riparian kind of approach. I just set it up today so it is still very cloudy. I was thinking of putting in some fire belly newts. I have not kept them before. Would they do well in a tank like this? Also, would they be able to live with a betta fish?

Most of the water is completely still because of they way the pots block the waterfall. Thank you for your advice.

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Old 01-26-2014, 08:50 AM   #2
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looks good interesting tank, u have no ideas on fish? depends what u want, florida flag fish, guppies lol
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Old 01-26-2014, 01:45 PM   #3
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Well, I was thinking of doing Newts, but I have never kept them and didn't know if this would be enough "land" and "water" areas.
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Old 01-26-2014, 02:33 PM   #4
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The land and water areas seem fine. I would find a top for the tank, and cover up the filter. They love getting into places they aren't supposed to.
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:19 PM   #5
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Thank you for the advice. I had figured that was the case. I planned there to be no way for them to get into the filter. The areas behind the pots are full of gravel so they can't get down to the intake because it is buried and the top is full of gravel up to the top as well. When the water is clearer I'll try to get some pictures to show what I mean.

Also, I do have a screen for the top I just don't have it on because I had just finished setting up the tank.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:24 PM   #6
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Looks good. That would work for fire bellied newts. In my experience, they rarely venture onto the dry part of a setup anyway. I'd say the waterfall is completely for your own pleasure though, they tend to like still water (or very slow moving). Would probably stay away from keeping any fish with the newts that you'd mind being eaten. Bettas are especially slow, so they wouldn't stand much chance. While the average betta is too big for a newt to swallow, it doesn't mean they wouldn't try.

Fun animals, but be prepared for a long time investment. I had a fire bellied newt that died this past summer after 21 years. Some say they can even live longer than that.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:30 PM   #7
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Fun animals, but be prepared for a long time investment. I had a fire bellied newt that died this past summer after 21 years. Some say they can even live longer than that.

Wow. Cool. I knew they were long lived, but that is impressive.

So the Betta has to find somewhere else to live. I guess he can go into the 5.5 he was in to begin with. All of the aquatic parts they can get to are completely still anyway, the waterfall just falls into gravel so that it wouldn't create disturbance.

Thanks for the advice.
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Old 02-10-2014, 03:18 AM   #8
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Some updates on this tank. Now has a Spanish Ribbed Newt living in it with one more on the way. I think two will be fine but I will not add anymore. Seems very happy in it's new tank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNC-5mDtB1A

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oh he is very cool!!!
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Looks great! I like the wood and floating plants to.
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Love the newt!
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:31 PM   #13
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Thanks guys. Here is what the tank looks like now. The newt is hiding somewhere.
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Some video of the newt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdZL2u_2Xo
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A very cute video, I just love newts.

But have you thought about the temperature in the tank? How are you planning to keep it low enough?

This looks like a closed tank with 2 neon tubes to me, those can warm up the tank far too much. And now is winter, have you made plants for summer?

The temperature for ribbed newts shouldn't be higher than 22C (71,6 F), while 18-20C (64-68F) would be much better. And have you thought about winter rest as well?

Sadly, most people don't think about these requirements and how to cool their tank, especially in summer. That leads to problems in a lot of cases - newts trying to escape from the tank (and succeeding, which rarely ends well ), being more prone to catch illnesses and a shortened life span.
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