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Old 01-08-2014, 02:06 PM   #1
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Help Solenoid Burkert, Clippart etc.


Hi guys,

I ordered an regulator, metering valve, needle valve etc

I just need a solenoid at this time, and i'm a little bit confusing.

From Burkert:

Solonoid part number 463938 = 74$
Pre-wired part number 92706054 = $46.00

or

Solonoid part number 463938 = 74$
cable plug only 008409 = 18$
cordset 92703889 = 28$

Both around 115$

Clippart solenoid MME-2PDS-W110 = $32.76

But i don't know to wired it ?

What is the difference between MME-2PDS-W110 and MME-2PDS-D110 ??

Someone have a "How to wired the clippart"?

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Old 01-08-2014, 07:02 PM   #2
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I am a big fan of the Clippard mouse series. They come in a line that starts the part number with two letters, ET-2 which provides terminals only, EC or EV. But before anybody is confused about what I recommend, I want to say they are totally different than the one you mention above. I have never used the ones you ask about but I think I have seen quite a few reports on complaints with them. I might advise caution on the Maximatic type as they do appear to have some of the same design problems that the Milwaukee type has.
You may be able to get some info by searching for the Clippard catalog as it can be found online.
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Old 01-08-2014, 07:27 PM   #3
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SMC solenoid VDW22NZ1DB.

Works great. Uses less than 2.5 watts. That model number comes with 1/8 npt threads. Which makes connection easy and strong. It can be found at SMC Pneumatics dot com. It
costs around $30 shipped.
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Old 01-08-2014, 07:54 PM   #4
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I have never used the ones you ask about but I think I have seen quite a few reports on complaints with them. I might advise caution on the Maximatic type as they do appear to have some of the same design problems that the Milwaukee type has.
I find the part number MME-2PDS-D110 here http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...44&postcount=4.

What complaint about this one ?

The guy at the phone said me the MME-2PDS-D110 is 12 volts and 6,5 watts.

The burkert is my first choice but too expensive for me (i'm from quebec…all is expensive).
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Old 01-08-2014, 08:44 PM   #5
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Of these 3, the Clippard is the only one (as far as I know) that has the handy feature of having a red LED that indicates when the solenoid is open, and CO2 is flowing. However, many users have reported that the solenoid does get quite warm (sometimes to the point where you cannot leave your hand on it comfortably). The other three brands do not seem to have this overheating issue, but also do not possess the same LED. "
This quote makes me think that it runs hotter than is good and makes the lube dry out so that it sticks.
But then I have only read about, so I may be wrong.
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Old 01-08-2014, 09:16 PM   #6
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Ah ok thank.

So i will need to built something to vent the solenoid. I ordered this two hours ago…

Is it dangerous to fire or not ?
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For the Clippard Mouse, you will either need a manifold or tap out 1/8" holes yourself.

For the Clippard MME-2PDS-D110, it gets hot to the point that it is uncomfortable to hold in your hand. This is because it consumes a lot of power (6.5 watts is a lot).

There is probably no need to vent the solenoid, and should not pose a fire hazard unless you are keeping flammable substances/materials around it (and you should not be, anyway).
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For the Clippard to be used with 1/8, I use a 10-32 to 1/8 male fitting. They are somewhat hard to find but available online. But then I find no need of the 1/8 unless I want to use solid piping and that seems to make things unnecessarily awkward.
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:53 AM   #9
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I upping my thread to say the clippart solenoid get more than warm. He is very hot...

It not dangerous ? I mean not only the solenoid get warm but other part, and the wire seem also to be hot.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:29 PM   #10
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No experience from me on that Clippard as they are not the Mouse version that I use.
Hot enough to be in danger of setting fire is really, really hot to touch. Somewhere like 400 F? Think of the oven when it is set to that temperature? Metal glows red? But this is a guess with no experience on that solenoid.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:42 PM   #11
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The stanless is not red, the bottle is still cold. The other part is warm.

My powercord is more soft, maybe because the powercord is at 1cm ?
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The stanless is not red, the bottle is still cold. The other part is warm.

My powercord is more soft, maybe because the powercord is at 1cm ?
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Power Consumption 6.5 Watt
Yes it will be warm to hot-ish..
55C (131F) is "hot" to the touch.. but not hot as in being particularly dangerous.

IF you don't trust it.. get something different..

You alone are the only judge on this one..

The SMC VDW series I mentioned runs @ 72F (22C) w/ 24V DC in a coldish room..
Coil is 3W for the DC versions.. 3.5W for the AC versions
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I will try to put ŕ fan on it. If still hot i will change it.
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SMC solenoid VDW22NZ1DB.

Works great. Uses less than 2.5 watts. That model number comes with 1/8 npt threads. Which makes connection easy and strong. It can be found at SMC Pneumatics dot com. It
costs around $30 shipped.
larams67, how do you have this wired? Seems like a great price and the last piece I need for a reg build is the solenoid. Can you send a pic of it installed?
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