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Old 01-05-2014, 04:16 PM   #1
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still waiting on a reply email after 2 weeks


Im still waiting on a email with pictures of a tank that has both 100000k and 6400k lights on it before I make my purchases. I really want to make my purchase soon so my lights will be here when I have time to re due my aquascape.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:45 PM   #2
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Go with the 6400k, I think 10000k would be to bright, washing colors out.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:58 PM   #3
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Im still waiting on a email with pictures of a tank that has both 100000k and 6400k lights on it before I make my purchases. I really want to make my purchase soon so my lights will be here when I have time to re due my aquascape.
First picture is a 50g with a 7000K BML LED fixture and second is a 120g with a 10000K BML LED fixture. Both tanks are low tech low light tanks. Both fixtures have dimmers and output is set at 18-20 par using a par sensor.

IMO both look good in terms of color. Both seem to grow plants. Looking at them independently I can't notice much difference. Looking at them at the same time the 10K unit has more red. I go back and forth as to which I think is more pleasing.




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Old 01-05-2014, 07:00 PM   #4
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My tank is a 120 I need two 48 inch lights Cara told me I should get 1 of each for a blend
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:28 PM   #5
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Go with the 6400k, I think 10000k would be to bright, washing colors out.
I have the 10,000K and the colors are far from being washed out. The reds, oranges, & greens are vibrant and pop so do the anubias white flowers...even the oranges & blues of the fish.
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If you are going to use a dual florescent a mix is easy and there is no cost penalty. If you go LEDs most fixtures have a fixed color and buying two would be costly. Go to the BML website and they have good pictures showing the results of various color fixtures.
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:53 PM   #7
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If you are going to use a dual florescent a mix is easy and there is no cost penalty. If you go LEDs most fixtures have a fixed color and buying two would be costly. Go to the BML website and they have good pictures showing the results of various color fixtures.

I am talking about the leds I need two she was telling me to buy 1 6400k and 1 10000k


you say the 10000k doesnt drown out the colors I might just go with 2 10's then and make it easy
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:30 PM   #8
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Don't know who Cara is. Both of my tanks use single LED fixtures. Mine, and others, are capable of providing sufficient light to get these tanks into the higher end of medium light or low end of the high light spectrum. BML has just announced a new high light version which would get into the high spectrum easily. My 120 is 60" wide and uses a 60" fixture. It is 25.5" high which is the critical part of getting the correct par value at the substrate. My 50 is 48" wide and 20" high and uses a 48" fixture.

Again, don't know which LEDs Cara is selling but there are several popular units which would work for the normal spectrum without using two units. That excepts if you will have a high tech tank with CO2 and very high lighting, then you might need two.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:06 AM   #9
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Don't know who Cara is. Both of my tanks use single LED fixtures. Mine, and others, are capable of providing sufficient light to get these tanks into the higher end of medium light or low end of the high light spectrum. BML has just announced a new high light version which would get into the high spectrum easily. My 120 is 60" wide and uses a 60" fixture. It is 25.5" high which is the critical part of getting the correct par value at the substrate. My 50 is 48" wide and 20" high and uses a 48" fixture.

Again, don't know which LEDs Cara is selling but there are several popular units which would work for the normal spectrum without using two units. That excepts if you will have a high tech tank with CO2 and very high lighting, then you might need two.
Cara is with BML, if she is telling you 1 6400k and 1 10000k then she isn't going to steer you wrong especially if you are wanting a good blend. The 10K doesn't wash out colors. If anything it makes the colors pop more. I am using 2 10K Planted on a 90G that is 25" tall about 3-4" above the waterline. In my sig you can see what just one 10K looks like on an empty 90G. According to BML the 10K planted tank fixture is a true 10000K light and is slightly cooler than their Dutch Planted 6300K. The 10000K provides a slight boost to the purple and red colors when compared to the 6300K, while subtly darkening the green colors.

Ether way you're going to be in high light with two fixtures and would be happy with the 6300K/10K combo or just two 10K fixtures.

The new XB series is mostly directed towards deeper tanks but with two 10K you'll have more than enough light and even then you will be having to dim them down.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:17 AM   #10
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Cool thanks Texan, I was planning on getting a dimmer with it too and was thinking about going to the Apex. My tank will have CO2 injection and the other thing is that my tank is acrylic and has acrylic lids that are a little on the foggy side so I just want to make sure when I hang these lights that I will still be getting all the light I need. My tank is a 48x24x24 so its going to have to go deep, thanks for your guys help.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:44 PM   #11
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BML is coming out with a controller in 2-3 months, so when I just ordered my 2 fixtures, I'm holding off on getting manual dimmers and going to get the controller instead when it comes out. Cara informed me to just run them for shorter periods. This won't be a problem for me on my 135G, since I plan on running 2 planted+ in the center, with a BML 10000k on the front lid (60 degree), and a 6300k dutch 75 degree on the back.

This is on a 36" deep tank, so that is why I went with more concentrated angles along with putting them on the front and rear edge of the tank.

I figure I can run the planted+ for 9 hours a day, with maybe 4 of the bml to give the peak boosts in the mean time.

OH, and yes, this is the new XB series, so the 10000k is 41% brighter, and the 6300k is 37% brighter.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:47 PM   #12
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Keep in mind that BML has a waiting period, I ordered mine on the 30th and my listed ship date is the 14th.
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Old 01-06-2014, 05:48 PM   #13
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waiting period is correct...I ordered mine on Dec. 13 and don't have a ship date...
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:26 AM   #14
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Looking at both pictures I really like how bright green the plants look under the 7000k
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:13 PM   #15
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Well...my BML came this morning...a nice surprise considering I never got an email.

Quality build...and bright!!!
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