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Old 11-29-2013, 10:46 PM   #16
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Very nice shrimps.... Hakata(博多蝦) is one of the long lasting Japanese lines. Wish I had some ;-)
If I'm not mistaken I believe 博多 would be referring to Benibachi
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Old 11-30-2013, 01:50 AM   #17
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If I'm not mistaken I believe 博多 would be referring to Benibachi
Actually Hakata-ku 博多區 is a county in Japan. Benibachi 紅蜂 on the other hand is just a brand name. It means "Red Bee"
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:03 AM   #18
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Actually Hakata-ku 博多區 is a county in Japan. Benibachi 紅蜂 on the other hand is just a brand name. It means "Red Bee"
I see, I've never actually obtained the Japanese characters for these names to be put into Google Translate, I always thought Benibachi was 博多 and 红蜂 was simply red bee, not a brand name.
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:59 PM   #19
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Looks like some of your taiwan bees have balloon head deformity, I would cull those if I were you, that balloon head deformity can cause molting issues
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Old 11-30-2013, 11:11 PM   #20
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Ballon head deformity?? i need to learn more about it!!
I have limited experience and thought the big heads are part of the characteristic of Taiwan bee.

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Old 11-30-2013, 11:32 PM   #21
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Balloon head

http://atyidae.wordpress.com/tag/taiwan/

http://www.crustahunter.com/en/defor...h-bred-shrimp/
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:00 AM   #22
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Damn I have 150+ mischlings but only 9 Taiwan Bees... It will be very painful having to cull them
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:11 AM   #23
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Damn I have 150+ mischlings but only 9 Taiwan Bees... It will be very painful having to cull them
You could achieve the same thing by taking out the healthy ones and putting them into a new tank
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:15 AM   #24
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At first glance that actually look more like some type of micro-organism at work than deformity to me. Excessive inbreeding definitely causes problems, but they are more like shrimps getting smaller and weaker, but then again this was the first time I've heard of balloon head deformity, so this is probably wrong
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Google 'Taiwan Bee balloon head' and you'll get more info and pics. Another thread on it

http://www.shrimpnow.com/forums/show...ormities/page2

Folks that have Taiwan bees NEED to know what balloon head deformity is, otherwise it's going to be a much bigger problem than it is currently. This is not something new, it's been around for a couple of years. I have had shrimp in the past have difficult molts that results in them looking like balloon heads until they molted again (these were in OEBT), but as far as I know the deformity in Taiwans is not anything that goes away and the shrimp also lead shortened lifespans as a result.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:21 PM   #26
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I sent back a order of shrimp from a seller because his mixed grades were full of them. Not a seller from the forum. I think he was getting deals on culled shrimp and selling them as normal..... If you have a bunch of Taiwan bees it is easy to spot when they have this because it sticks out like a sore thumb


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Yeah, unfortunately hong kong/chinese breeders do not cull this deformity, instead they let it perpetuate because if they cull it, they lose the 5 USD they could have sold it for.

Experienced buyers will see it and refuse to buy, so be careful about a "great deal" on taiwan bees, usually it is because they are from these tainted hong kong/chinese bloodlines. You will see them a lot more in the USA now, due to increased smuggling. Sad, but Americans don't care about quality, only about price.

There's also the "short skirt" or "shrunken carapace" mutation that is common in Taiwan bees, also to be avoided, and also causing health problems.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:41 PM   #28
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Nice CRS! Which store in HK you got it from ?
I just got some Crimson back vacation from HK too.
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My cousin brought it over so I don't know the store. But looking at all the photos he took from that store's tanks made me made me so jealousy. 😆
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BTW, nice CRS!
I like your shrimp rack under kitchen countertop too, good job.
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