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Old 11-20-2013, 10:01 PM   #16
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A pond that small will not be stable outdoors. Is this in some sort of enclosed entry or something? The summer heat will dry it out. The winter cold will chill it. There is not enough water volume to stabilize the temperature.

6 gallons is enough water for one small fish. Perhaps one minnow. No way is it good for Goldfish of any kind. Imagine keeping a Saint Bernard in an apartment!

I would dig up a much larger volume and see how big a space you could really dedicate to a pond. Could you get 20-30 gallons of space? Then you could keep one goldfish, or several minnows and the volume of water would make it a much more stable temperature through the seasons.

I have tried the Harbor Freight pumps. They are cheap garbage that give up in half the time of a good quality pump.
I still have some Beckett Pond Pumps going after so many years I have forgotten when I bought them. All the HF pumps are long gone.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:59 AM   #17
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Hes upgrading to a 100g
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #18
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Oh, good. Much better!
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:07 PM   #19
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Yes, 2 will be given away this week and 2 will get transferred over to a bigger pond with rosy reds in a few months.

The 5g sits between the house and the garage with 8 feet in between the 2.

This is the temp reading as of last night. (Los Angeles)


10:00pm 57(air)-65(container)
03:00am 56-62
09:00am 62-60 (light rain)
12:00pm 64-61
02:00pm 65-62
04:00pm 62-64
08:30PM 57-62 (sprinkle)

I was able to find these tiny baskets at the .99$ store so filter/waterfall will probably go in today. Just need to drill the top basket and pick up some hose.
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:21 AM   #20
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Couldn't find a tetra water pump hose fitting/nozzle adapter so I went to home depot and picked up a pvc 1/2" coupler. Bought some hose, zip ties and added some cut up straws (bio media). Since its not a floating bed, I doubt if the straws will work.
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:25 AM   #21
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Finally finished. I'm actually quite happy with the way it turned out. Definitely getting another pond.

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Old 01-02-2014, 04:47 AM   #22
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I like it! Hope it's in a shady location, though, or I'd think those goldfish will get seriously cooked in the summer temps we get here.

Any issues with the cold snaps we've had lately? I know goldfish are really hardy (carp family?) but we definitely had some unusually cold temps a few weeks ago.
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I think goldfish are meant for colder water only.

How's the big pond going?
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:44 AM   #24
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I think goldfish are meant for colder water only.

How's the big pond going?
Goldfish do great in room temperature water, no heaters needed. But "room temperature" refers to indoors. We had a series of nights well below freezing a few weeks ago, with daytime temps in the 40s, so water temps for a small container could have gone into the low 40s without much surprise, which seems like something I'd worry about. If your idea of "room temperature" is in the 40s, no offense, but I do NOT want to visit, LOL! (said tongue in cheek, no real offense intended!)
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:08 AM   #25
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One of the reasons I buried it was to keep the temps stable. Our weather shouldn't be an issue for these ponds. No matter how cold it gets here in Los Angeles, it's probably twice as cold everywhere else.


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Hope it's in a shady location, though, or I'd think those goldfish will get seriously cooked in the summer temps we get here.
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The 5g sits between the house and the garage with 8 feet in between the 2.
It doesn't get much direct sun maybe an hr in the morning.

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How's the big pond going?
Instead of setting up a 2nd pond, I'm going to wait a few weeks then replace this one with a much larger one. I already moved a few large plants to the other side of the door way. I wanted to go 100g but all the containers I have found are 3ft wide.The bed area is barely 3ft wide itself. I found a 50g Sterilite container that is 22" wide by 43" long and 18" deep. That should be ok for the 3 goldfish. If not, I'll return 1 and keep 2.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:30 PM   #26
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Felt so bad for the 3 1" feeders so I went ahead and ordered a 50g feed tub. The 135gph Tetra mini pump created too much turbulence for such a small container and the floaters. The tub came in yesterday and before I signed, I found a 4" chunk of plastic missing from the top so I refused to sign for it. Probably happened during shipping.

Since I had already dug out the 6g container and the hole for the 50g, I drove down to walmart and picked up this temporary $5 18g Sterlite tote. I cut off 2" off the top (handle) and buried the whole thing flush. Container holds 16g with filter and rocks to hide said filter.

I just wish they had black because the blue plastic showing is bugging the heck out of me. It's just temporary so I'm not trippin too much.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:42 AM   #27
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Still too much current. Fish are OK with it but the water lettuce gets drawn under water or pushed to the back under the big rock. I read that floaters like tranquil water and these obviously show signs of ware and tear. They have survived 2 months now but shows signs of slow deterioration.

The only way I was able to slow down the current was to cascade the water off of the main rock. Problem is that even though I have the rock tilted in a way that the water cascades nicely, I loose a lot of water from it going under the main rock and out of the pond. Instead, I have the hose elevated just enough so there is no contact with the rocks. Pours directly into the pond. Since it'll take some time to get my replacement tub, I may just add a cheap ebay 1/2" ball valve to slow down the flow.








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Raise the height of the waterfall. The higher the pump has to push the water, the less effective it will be, which will slow the water rate without needing any extra valves.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:18 AM   #29
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I was able to get a gentle cascade over the main rock but the problem I'm having is the water going under the rock and out of the pond. I'm going to try and replicate the bigger ponds and place some plastic under the waterfall rocks so water finds its way back into the tub. That and maybe use smaller scale rocks



Something like this guys waterfall but in a much smaller scale.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:33 PM   #30
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Are you still using the temporary container? With smaller rocks covering the liner, the pond and waterfall will look great.
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