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Old 11-13-2013, 01:48 AM   #1
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My poor plant


So All of my plants seem to be developing some illness that's causing their leaves to shrivel. Here is one. What do you think is wrong?



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Old 11-13-2013, 02:41 AM   #2
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What are you dosing for fertz? Light on duration? Look like potassium deficiency, GSA growing on your plants.
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Old 11-13-2013, 05:29 AM   #3
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Your plant is showing nutrient deficiency.
Try to take the java fern in the picture out of the water and take a clear photograph so we can see what is causing this deficiency.
Do u use ferts? One of the main reasons behind nutrient deficiency is lack of ferts.
Try to dose the basic macro ferts for a month and u'll see the difference.
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:09 AM   #4
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Take more pictures please. A closer photo of the damaged areas is needed for each affected plant. Also please flip the pictures right side up - it is difficult to see what is wrong from odd angles.
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Old 11-13-2013, 03:14 PM   #5
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Your plant is showing nutrient deficiency.
Try to take the java fern in the picture out of the water and take a clear photograph so we can see what is causing this deficiency.
Do u use ferts? One of the main reasons behind nutrient deficiency is lack of ferts.
Try to dose the basic macro ferts for a month and u'll see the difference.
Ok I'll retake some pics tonight. I just started dosing ei on Monday, so it could very well just need so e more time. I do 50% WC, use Eco complete with powersand M, and have 2 27watt 6500k CFLs running at 10 hour photoperiod. I also use diy co2 and my checker shows light green

My tank is 29gal...do you think I have too much light?

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Old 11-13-2013, 10:53 PM   #6
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Here are some more pics









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Old 11-14-2013, 06:04 AM   #7
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Ok, first thing you need to do is take the java fern out of the substrate. Java ferns should not have their rhizomes buried. The only part that can be covered is the brown/black root like things. Do not cover the horizontal fleshy stem or the plant will rot eventually.

From what I can see the other plants look slightly pale in the newer growth, though I am not sure if this is a picture artifact or if it is actually paling of the tissue?

The ludwigia in the third last picture might be suffering from nitrogen deficiency. The leaves seem to progressively get smaller as the plant grows, would you say that is true in person? Do you see this trend in your plant in general or not really?

What fertilizers are you adding and how many times per week for each?

Also, please rotate your pictures right side up before uploading them to the forum - it is very difficult to correctly figure out what is going on when you have to reverse every image mentally.
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:38 AM   #8
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Here are some more pics

I am dosing ei and following the guidelines for a 29gal planted tank.










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Ok, first thing you need to do is take the java fern out of the substrate. Java ferns should not have their rhizomes buried. The only part that can be covered is the brown/black root like things. Do not cover the horizontal fleshy stem or the plant will rot eventually.

From what I can see the other plants look slightly pale in the newer growth, though I am not sure if this is a picture artifact or if it is actually paling of the tissue?

The ludwigia in the third last picture might be suffering from nitrogen deficiency. The leaves seem to progressively get smaller as the plant grows, would you say that is true in person? Do you see this trend in your plant in general or not really?

What fertilizers are you adding and how many times per week for each?

Also, please rotate your pictures right side up before uploading them to the forum - it is very difficult to correctly figure out what is going on when you have to reverse every image mentally.
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Old 11-16-2013, 03:18 AM   #9
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The plants look like they need more nitrogen, possibly more iron.

So you are dosing this? A total of 3/4 tea spoons of KNO3 per week spaced out into three equal doses?

20~40gal
50% H20 change-weekly
1/4 Tsp-KN03 3x a week
1/16 Tsp-KH2P04 3x aweek
1/2 Tsp-GH booster once a week
5ml or 1/16Tsp-Trace 3x a week
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1-2ml-Fe/Iron 3x a week
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I am doing everything except the GH booster and fe/iron, however I dose excel every other day (on days I dose plantex)

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The plants look like they need more nitrogen, possibly more iron.

So you are dosing this? A total of 3/4 tea spoons of KNO3 per week spaced out into three equal doses?

20~40gal
50% H20 change-weekly
1/4 Tsp-KN03 3x a week
1/16 Tsp-KH2P04 3x aweek
1/2 Tsp-GH booster once a week
5ml or 1/16Tsp-Trace 3x a week
Optional
1-2ml-Fe/Iron 3x a week
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:57 AM   #11
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Are you dosing a total of 3/4 tea spoons of KNO3 per week spaced out into three equal doses? Or just 1/4 per week?
See my earlier question.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:49 AM   #12
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:43 AM   #13
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Yes I do 3/4 tsp total for the week.


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See my earlier question.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:43 AM   #14
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Yea I use diy co2, but the drop checker is light green


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Old 11-18-2013, 01:51 AM   #15
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How much excel are you dosing?

I think we need to wait it out and see how the symptoms develop. If you have a deficiency it will get worse and the symptoms will become easier to identify.

Make sure you are using dechlorinator when you do water changes, chlorine can cause plant leaves to shrivel up and curl.

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