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Old 06-01-2014, 11:54 PM   #1
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Emersed Project


With a lot of questions coming up with emersed growth I figured I'd start a journal with the plants I currently have in my half 10 emersed tank.

Specs:
- Glass Cages Half 10: (10"x20"x6")
- x2 20" Incandescent Fixtures w/ 4 25w CFLs
- Exo Terra Ultrasonic Fogger

Before we get into the plants, I'll run through how the setup sits. The tank is filled ~2" with water, has a 12 hour light cycle that is broken up to three 4 hour runs with a two hour break in between the first and second and second and third cycle. The Fogger is on at all times that the lights are on, via a shared circuit from the timer for the lights. All of the plants reside in either 1.5" or 2.5" diameter terracotta pots and depending on the species of plant are either potted in Eco Complete or straight MGOPS. All of my pots have a DIY Osmocote tab in them to feed the roots of the plants. A couple times a week I will dose some liquid ferts (potassium and nitrogen) via a spray bottle onto the plants. I currently do not have it heated, so the plants will range in being in 65-85 degree temperatures throughout a day.

I have not had a chance to take a shot of the tank, but it's as basic as you can imagine. Now onto some of the plants!

S. Repens Pot #1
Pot: Repotted in container that originally housed cuttings from LFS
Substrate: MGOPS



S. Repens Pot #2
Pot: Repotted in container that originally housed cuttings from LFS
Substrate: MGOPS



Crypt. Wendtii ''Bronze''
Pot: 2.5"
Substrate: MGOPS



P. Helferi
Pot: 2.5"
Substrate: MGOPS



Hygrophila Polysperma 'Rosanervig' & Hygrophila Pinnatifida
Pot: 1.5"
Substrate: MGOPS
Note: Hygro. Polysperma is 100% emersed growth, Pinnatifida was recently added since I'm waiting on more pots but adapted nicely so far



Crypt. Wendtii "Bronze" & Crypt. Parva
Pot: 2.5"
Substrate: MGOPS
Note: Parva was planted in this pot when I though the Wendtii had melted and not come back. This growth on the Wendtii is only 1 week old and 100% emersed growth. The Parva took a while to adjust but has been in there for 2 weeks



Elocharis Acicularis
Pot: 2.5"
Substrate: Eco Complete



Lilaeopsis Mauritiana
Pot: 2.5"
Substrate: MGOPS
Note: This is stuff doubles in thickness every week. I started this out from some cuttings from a TPT member a couple weeks back.



Hydrocotyle Sibthorpioides
Pot: 2.5"
Substrate: MGOPS
Note: I had to cut some of it back as it started to creep into my other pots. I've noticed the growth is slower than what's mentioned when submersed, but it still grows fairly quick.



The only shots I don't have right now are some UG since it had been moved outside, Ludwigia (forget exact), Anubias Nana, Anubias Nana Petite, and Rotalla Colorata.

Definitely would like to get the following to throw in there:

Hydrocotyle Tripartita sp. Japan
Crypt. Rosanervig
Crypt. Lutea
Crypt. Wendtii Nurii
Crypt. Balansae
Crypt. Lucens
Crypt. Blassii
Crypt. Ciliata
Crypt. Undulata
Sagittaria Subulata (Dwarf)
HC "Cuba"
Lobelia Cardinalis
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:19 PM   #2
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Nice man, i had a 55 emersed tank for a year that i just recently took down. I would put some moss on the top of your soil, it will act as an anti mold/ fungal for anything that will grow on the soil surface. I bought a petsmart pack of s repens last year and planted half emersed and half submerged. I prolly mowed the emersed pot down 10X and replanted it emersed.
Can i ask why you break up the photo persiod and why its only 12hrs a day?
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:49 PM   #3
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I've considered moss, but at the same time I've had bad luck with most dried moss coming back to life and I don't like dealing with live moss. The MGOPS does have some sphagnum moss in the mix, so I shouldn't have an issue with mold or fungus. Worse case, I'll add some alder cones on the pots.

I got my S. Repens as a tissue culture, but not from Petsmart. It seems to love the emersed setup.

I breakup the photo period for heat management. Incandescent lights kick out some heat and the fact the tank is sealed with two glass panes on top (not your standard hood or glass top) I don't want to cook the plants. The two hour break allows the tank to cool down as well. With three digital thermometers I measure the water temp, middle temp of the tank (air temp) and the top temp (a bit below the rim of the tank.) Prior to the lights turning on for the first time the tank water is about 72-73 degrees, the middle air temp is about 71-73 and the top air temp is around 69-71 (air temp of the room since it's near a vent.) Once the lights kick on for the first phase, it gets up to 75-77, 76-79, 80-82. By the third cycle the temps are at 78-80, 83-85, 88-89. If I keep the lights on, it's obvious I'll have temp issues.

I had two 20 longs setup like this years ago. The only difference was the lighting was dual PC's, there was a circulation pump, and a heater per tank. It took much longer for plants to acclimate and the algae growth was intense. That being the case cutting back on the lighting and the additional heating has made a difference and is working well so far.
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Old 06-02-2014, 03:12 PM   #4
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oh nice. Yeah my tank i had the water at 80 and a powerhead in the water for circulation, glass lids as well and an air stone for humidity. The air temp stayed around 70-75 depending and the humidity was a constant 80. Just had 2-dual shop lights on it for around 14hrs a day. the tank did amazing, just got bored with it and needed it out. id love to see pics of the set up when you can
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:28 PM   #5
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I'll try to get to that tonight. Again, it's nothing fancy, but more so enough to get the job done.
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:24 PM   #6
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Forgot I had an older overview shot of the setup from last month on the 18th.



I'll get another overview shot tonight. Side shots are a little hard due to the shelf it's on.

Also, here is a shot from the 18th of the P. Helferi (Downoi) vs. yesterdays shot.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:48 AM   #7
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Here are some face shots of the tank:

How I see it day to day:


Small glass off (lid of 2.5 gallon):


With the fogger 'off' (has auto shutoff when water is low, so removing it from water shuts it off):


Inside:
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Looks awesome. Everything looks so vibrant
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:26 PM   #9
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The fogger on photo with the one leaf on the glass (what plant species is that one btw?) reminds me of horror movies where a monster/bad guy is killing someone behind a glass wall/door/window port in door and they slap their hand up (all bloody) on the glass then it slides down... ... >.>
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I want that downoi, it looks fantastic haha.
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Looks awesome. Everything looks so vibrant
Thanks! Still a lot more to add. I think I'm going to setup another tank above it to replace the old grow out I have that's only got a 12"x12" foot print. Looks like the 15 gallon setup I was going with might be going as another grow out instead.

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The fogger on photo with the one leaf on the glass (what plant species is that one btw?) reminds me of horror movies where a monster/bad guy is killing someone behind a glass wall/door/window port in door and they slap their hand up (all bloody) on the glass then it slides down... ... >.>
It's some species of Ludwigia that I got from Method on here. I forget the exact species, but the stem you see is throwing out side shoots from the base.

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I want that downoi, it looks fantastic haha.
Thanks, gonna start moving some of these to other pots when it gets thick. Traded some earlier last month so that's why the first pick looks thicker, though the plants are smaller.
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Old 06-05-2014, 03:50 AM   #12
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Duh duh duuuuuuuuh. Got home from work late and had an urge to get stuff moving...

Viv grow out is gone and a 15 gallon now has taken it's place as another emersed setup!





Running this one a little differently since I have more than aquatic plants in here. Here are a few details on the setup:

Equipment:
AGA 15 Gallon
2 Dome Lights - one has a 38Par LED spotlight that kicks out 1100 Lumens of 'Bright Light' (more white) and the other a 38 Par LED spotlight that kicks out 1000 Lumens of "Daylight" (more yellow)
Small no name powerhead (will be replaced by a fogger once the fish in there go outside)
75w Marineland Heater

Since I know someone will ask about the lights, I wanted to test each when it came to spectrum. I will be replacing the daylight bulb for a bright most likely.

Aquatic Plants:
Anubias Nana
Anubias Nana Petite
Anubias Nana Mini
Bucephalandra "Brownie Ghost"
Elocharis Acicularis
Hydrocotyle Verticillata
Microsorum Pteropus "Mini Tropica"
Microsorum Pteropus "Micro Needle Leaf"
Phyllanthus Fluitans
Süsswassertang
Unknown Moss

Non Aquatic Plants:
Ananas Comosus


Soon to be added:
Anubias Barteri var. Coffeefolia
Anubias Barteri var. Congensis
Anthirum sp. (non aquatic)
Arundina Graminifolia (non aquatic)
Cryptocoryne Balansae
Cryptocoryne Blassii
Cryptocoryne Ciliata
Cryptocoryne Lucens
Cryptocoryne Lutea
Cryptocoryne Parva (from other setup)
Cryptocoryne Petchii
Cryptocoryne Undulata
Cryptocoryne Wendtii var. 'Bronze' (from other setup)
Cryptocoryne Wendtii var. 'Green Gecko'
Cryptocoryne Wendtii var. 'Nurii'
Cryptocoryne Wendtii var. 'Tropica'
Microsorum Pteropus var. 'Narrow Leaf'
Microsorum Pteropus var. 'Trident'
Microsorum Pteropus var. 'Windelov'
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Old 06-05-2014, 04:45 AM   #13
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Why are some of the pots upside down?

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Rather than putting substrate in the pots and possibly planting a rhizome too far and causing rot, I flipped the pots and ran some of the roots through the drainage hole and placed a sponge inside to hold up some Osmocote. With this done the roots get some ferts and the rhizome won't be risked. I only do this for rhizome plants.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:11 PM   #15
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Well a nice trip out to Lancaster for the GF's birthday outting lead a brief stop at That Pet Place... I wish it was the last place to stop on the trip, but alas it wasn't. I'll soon be ordering a few things from there for the Emersed Projects.
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