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Old 10-30-2013, 04:01 PM   #16
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Post-ponics 55g tank under construction (some prep photos added)


Cycling Log: (10/30)
Ammonia: 0.25
Nitrtie: 2-5
Nitrate: 40-80

Had ammonia and nitrite hit 0 two days ago but nitrite it went back up to 2 the day after, I also had another fungus outbreak the same day on the same piece of driftwood even after boiling it for 2 hours a few weeks ago (I wonder if these are inter-related issues).
I threw out the wood and have the java fern attaches to some small clear air hose piping for now. New leaves coming in on the healthy java fern ave clear tips which I thought meant they weren't getting enough light, but a Google search came up with it actually being healthy and normal. All the platnlets that grew off my half dead java never had clear leaves. The flowering anaubias nana (yet the flower is still alive O.o) has a nice new leaf on it that's nearly as big as the old leaves already and a nice light color still, it grew in really fast.
My old anubias nana (which I am actually starting to think is a petite because its stem is no where near as high as the new ones and leaves are smaller) also has a new leaf growing on it but its a bit slower. Not too surprising since it has less leaves to begin with and much shorter roots (thanks to pleco noming).
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:14 PM   #17
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Unhappy algae bloom?

Have some odd thread like clear stuff growing on part of the driftwood (closest to light) and some of the old half dead java fern with plantlets that's right next to it. what is this?
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[I know the crud below the sting-y stuff is mulm from when i tried dumping water from a filter cleaning in there supposedly to bring over some BB... bad idea btw real messy.]
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:38 PM   #18
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Default The battle begins!

So I have hair algae, I've reduce the time the lights on but about an hour and start doing peroxide treatments with water changes to try to remove the algae. Unfortunately the tank seems to be taking forever to cycle now, as the nitrites are back up to 2-5ppm =.=
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:24 PM   #19
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Default the war on algae continues.. new warrior: duckweed!

So I ordered some duckweed that arrived today, hoping between it and the anacharis I can keep nitrate/algae from going crazy while I feed pure ammonia to the BB till I figure but and set up my final scape.
I dumped it in and realized the canister outflow was pushing a lot of it underwater, so I quickly secured some panty hose to the intake for the filter, and pushed all the floating anarchists into the substrate so it doesn't get completely covered in duckweed.
My biggest concern is the fast growing plants (mainly the duckweed) will screw over my java fern and anubias for nutrient in the water column.. or just flat out starve out the beneficial bacteria... but I'm probably getting worried for nothing ^^

Also removed the driftwood and have it soaking in a large industrial/construction trash bag in a sink with peroxide to try to kill off any remaining hair algae. Letting it soak a few hours then going to rinse/scrub the hell out of it, treat it with a quick de-chlorinator dip, then stick it back in the tank tomorrow after re-securing some new weights,
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:42 PM   #20
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Angry Nitrties, I curse thee!

Its been too long and the nitrites still won't go down and stay down. I got them to hit 0 for a day or two but they went back up. Incidentally they went down after I removed the driftwood to treat for hair algae, and went back up the day after it went back in (wood was treated, then rinsed well, and dunked with de-chlorinated water before re-entering the tank) no more hair algae btw. The wood was also drilled with holes to attached a river stone before re-entering the tank, the original weights were not working out well. I am thinking the wood contains anti-bacterial sap residue, but its only effecting the nitrite eating bacteria, the ammonia munchers still seem to be doing fine (nitrties go up and ammonai stays at 0). If this is so then I'd suspect it would effect fish negatively too.. and I'm surprised how durable the pond snails in there are, nitrates are already off the charts and they still are slowly crawling all over the tank.
I am giving the wood a week in the tank, it nitrites don't go back down to (and stay at) 0 I will permanently remove it. If this happens when the wood does out I will be gutting my Evolve4 (its been a bust) and put its filter media in the "55".
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:03 PM   #21
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Long babble... skip to end for photos!

So tank finally cycled a few days ago (it almsot ahd befoer but nitrties spiked again) So I decided it was time to bring down the nitrates, which were off the charts toxic.. except apparently to the pond snails which I now think are as indestructible as roaches (unless you .. you know.. squish them) in terms of water tolerances at least. I took out the driftwood to treat for hair algae again and started prepping for a big clean up.

Yesterday I took apart the canister filter and clean all the media within the water contained in the filter. When i say clean I simply mean just agitate the bio-balls and ceramic tubes around, ring out the thread pads and agitate the charcoal bags. By the time I was done I could not see 1 inch into the canister's water it was a thick black/brown (eww) dumped that out and put everything back in. I detached the green hosing (which I really wish they're made clear or black) used my husbands cleaning rod to get all the gunk out that had built up and was getting rather unsightly with the transparent tubing. Everything went back together ok after cleaning and resealed and started up just fine. I then did a tiny water changed (6-9 gallons) and got some of the snail poo out of the substrate.

Today I went at the gravel like a mad woman and ended up siphon cleaning the entire bottom (after removing all plants and about 1/2 the duckweed to a spare pot). Got quite a bit out and siphon worked well getting the water level down to about 2" above the substrate (with the high walls of the "55" gallon I couldn't get more out with it. I used a plastic cup and pushed a alrge ammoung of gravel asside to get out more water so the level was about 1" above substrate (when its level). My tank had ben ever so slgihtly off center for a while so i decided to try to move the 1" to the elft taht it needed to go... 50 pounds of gravel, 20+ of glass tank and another 15-30 in water = it ain't freaking budging. Oh well it hasn't burst yet, I can tolerate it being off center a little longer. Started re-fill with 1 4 gallon bucket of treated water at a time, and wouldn't ya know it... it was below freezing this morning so the tap was fudging freezing! I didn't have the patience to heat 1 bucket of water at a time then add it so I left the canister off (been off since the water level started dropping with the cleaning today) and added the cold water to the tank without flow. It dropped the temp from 78 to 60F, thats a bit low! So I grabbed the small 50 watt heater from my Evolve and threw it in the "55" to help the large heater along, I know it won't help much but its gotta do a little.. right? Well took a few hours to finish re-filling (had to run errands in between) but its full and the plants finally back in. The tank is only at 70-72 now (the plants bucket cooled down to about the same temp before they were re-added) but I'm hoping with the fitler back on and flowing it will heat up again quickly and not freeze out the BB.

Tomorrow I will do another water test and probably more water changes to get the nitrates down (went from blood red off the charts to red-ish orange from today's clean.... got to get it closer to yellow! If BB survived the clean and cold wc I'll be putting my Madagascar rainbowfish in to test that its all clear then in go the others!

Anyways enough talk onto photos!
first up: my origianl anubias nana (pleco ate most of it) look new leaves!! so my new nana in off to the left
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New anubias nana & old java fern (wrecked by same pleco) photo bombing it. Has new leaf and.. new rhizome growth! look at the right side its growing a new tiny rhizome with tiny leaves!
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above view of old nana and both new one (also with new leaves) the white speck is a duckweed... the old nana doesn't look like the new one.. I'm starting to think its actually a "petite"
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Above view of new java ferns (tons of new leaves)
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Close up of baby java ferns that grew from old java the pleco had devoured (this is why I don't throw out the nearly dead java, it gives me new ones!)
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Tank is still a little .. cloudy from the clean and wc so no full views yet sorry.

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Old 11-25-2013, 06:42 PM   #22
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Default Allllmooooost theeereeee

Sooo tank had a mini cycle from me cleaning out the canister too vigorously I suppose, but its back to "0" for ammonia and nitrite (yay!). Nitrates was 40-80 so did a 30-33 gallon water change and currently re-filling slowly. I swear I always have to do large water changes on days when the weather is below freezing =.=
I'll probably add my Madagascar from the cycled tank tonight so I can keep an eye on her and see if everything checks out with the "55" then stick the others in. Won't really have time to acclimate and add her before I run errands this afternoon so she'll just have to wait till dinner prep time. Wonder how big a pain she is going to make it catching her, she's gotten pretty big and fast. Will post pics after she's in probably tonight or tomorrow.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:34 PM   #23
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Default and they're in!

Things moved quickly and I ended up putting everyone in the "55" on Wed. and moving the Dwarf Gourami back out Saturday after re-scpaing his tank.
Walker (leopard sailfin pleco 7-8 inches) decided to be a real derp and go flying when I tried to move him to the temp bucket to acclimate him for the larger tank. I guess he realized the carpet wasn't all that great since he let me pick him up after his failed exploration attempt. He split all his fins a bit (at least 1-2 tears each) from the incident but they've already nearly completely healed. I put in his old drift wood as a "secrutity blanket" but hoped he'd use the new larger wood for shade... well as you can see in the photo below the retard loves his old wood pieces and smushes himself in between them most of the day =.= dumbass. Dot (Madagascar Rainbowfish) was the test fish for the tank and seems quite happy with the added sim space, but she still doesn't have a school to swim with (stupid pet store never restocks her kind). She use to swim with Ether and pretend she was 'top dog' flaring and mouth gaping at him, but he was never intimidated by her. She definitely got faster than him at feeding time though. Anyways its just her and Walker in the big tank for the moment. I'm going to go try yanking on the store manager's ear to get a shipment of Madagascars, as I'd rather not order a school in winter to ship to my home.

On a side note the duckweed was a bust, I tried it in 2 low tech and 1 no tech tank, it just doesn't want to multiply for me.

Anyways enough yapping here's some photos (poor quail thanks to iPhone sorry)
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:30 PM   #24
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Default baby photos and recent photos!

So found some "baby photos" of the fish from their first tank that are over a year old now, posted them in the journal for the tank they use to be in. You can view it here.


I also have some more recent pleco photos (the rainbow fish is lowing the extra swim room and won't hold still for a photo =,=)
I love it when he sucks on the glass and i get to see his pudgy belly!



Pleco over 1 year old and 8 inches or so turns out hes 9 inches!


Less than a month with me, and about 2 inches (fav photo of him had to share!)


Will pots updated tank shots later in the week.


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btw walker's fins are all healed up since the 'lil "I wanna fly" incident ^^ No meds used in the tank, just clean water.

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Very nice! Don't forget- the reddish brown stuff in your filters is not algae- that is the color of your beneficial bacteria. I wouldn't clean that off anything until your tank is very mature and the filter starts getting clogged- otherwise you will cause a nitrate spike and maybe a mini cycle.
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Very nice! Don't forget- the reddish brown stuff in your filters is not algae- that is the color of your beneficial bacteria. I wouldn't clean that off anything until your tank is very mature and the filter starts getting clogged- otherwise you will cause a nitrate spike and maybe a mini cycle.
Yeh I cleaned it thinking it was mulm before I intended to put the fish in.. set back the fish move by a week or so since it did a mini-cycle.. I just wish it wasn't transparent tubing, I don't want to see it >.<
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Default just some more pleco photos

love getting shots of him when he'll hold still
height check (first in several months) had to do with tank lights off 9 inches of poop making monstrosity


full tank with some anacharis yanked up by the pleco who's acting all innocent on the glass (whoops had the wrong photo, fixed)


OM NOM NOM NOM.. stop staring at me.. NOM NOM
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:32 PM   #28
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Default Fat cat attack

Ok so not really an attack, but the fat arse that is Snowball watching the fish in the"55" from the stool I use to do water changes (mostly just to set the buckets on). I think its the first time she's gotten to really look in the tank.
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On Christmas eve me and my husband went shopping for our dog's presents at Petsmart (dog came along, he loves it in there). After picking some thins out I checked out the fish tanks, and wouldn't-cha-know-it, they had some Madagascar rainbow fish. All were 1/2 to 1/3 the size of mine but they were just a two short of a decent school or I would have bought them. Since mine is so large i will only guy more if I can get 8 at once as a minimum to spread the load of aggression my big girl will give them as "top dog" in there. I expect a bit of aggression since I can't get a ton of hiding places via plants with the pleco in there.

I decided to finally do a nitrate test yesterday. In the pleco's previous tank the nitrates always came out an orange-red (40-80) even with daily 50% water changes (soooo much poop). In the "55" I got... *drum roll* 10-20 ppm nitrate! This is doing an 8-10 gallon water change every other day and with tap water that comes out at 10-20 ppm (unless my test kit is faulty but at least its as low as tap water nitrates) so at least nitrates are staying down now yay!
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Just another photo of the pleco, he's been stubborn for me, when the camera goes up, his lovely fins go down.. =.=
pardon the water stains and that's a large chunk of zucchini next tot him he likes to nom

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