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Old 08-31-2013, 01:40 AM   #16
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> walmart 10g heater
> walmart hood for two 15w incandescent bulbs.... which I ended up buying 2-10w mini fluorescents
> does anyone know anything about these bulbs im sure im in the low light range but would love any info someone could give me on these lights and what can be > exected out of them

Those CFLs are Power CFLs, which is why they're putting out 600 lumens instead of 550 that the 10w spiral CFLs do. I am using a 10w spiral and a 13w spiral over my 10g in "brooder" type dome reflectors, which are very efficient. I think your CFLs are oriented correctly for the most output - horizontally for Power CFLs. The only problem is the white plastic reflectors in the Walmart canopy is very inefficient, so you may only get 550 or maybe less lumens out of each of them. This is probably enough to grow Java Ferns and other low-light plants, but IME not enough for regular plants.

So should I just take the plastic cover off while using these and regular cfl bulbs???
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:43 AM   #17
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I took the splash guards out...just got in the way.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:18 AM   #18
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I took the splash guards out...just got in the way.
Well it seems like my plants are living in the tank so far lol
Oh and I put a background on the tank today
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:19 AM   #19
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So should I just take the plastic cover off while using these and regular cfl bulbs???
I'm not exactly sure what the "plastic cover" is. If it's the canopy itself I'd leave it on. I would also leave on the white plastic reflector, as it does reflect something.

For spiral CFLs I would strongly recommend buying a "brooder" type dome reflector at a local home improvement store like Lowe's or Home Depot. Then you have to figure out how to mount the reflectors or put them right on top of a glass top.

I just don't know for sure whether a power CFL, like yours, would perform well in a brooder dome reflector. I think it would but I would pm Hoppy and ask him about it or just try it and see if there's enough light with your 10w power CFLs. If you posted the before and after pics one right after the other, we could definitely tell.

The spiral CFLs are made to be mounted vertically, not horizontally as in your canopy, and would give off less light than mounted in a brooder dome reflector vertically.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:32 AM   #20
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Ok here's a pic of the kind of good I bought


Here's a pic of when I first set up the tank


Here's a pic from today


And the bulbs are mini fluorescents not compact fluorescents
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FYI, I was referring to the plastic shields that are labeled "3"
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:40 AM   #22
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Yea me too I'm sure they block light..... And the reflectors on this good suck..... I'd probably be better off wrapping them in aluminum foil
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They are pretty crummy, not sure they even really qualify as reflectors. That's one of the reasons I went for a bigger CFL, figured I would lose a bit of light from not reflecting and restrike.

Tank looks really nice by the way!
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Yea me too I'm sure they block light..... And the reflectors on this good suck..... I'd probably be better off wrapping them in aluminum foil
I get it. Those must be life-size pictures of the mini fluorescents then. My guess would be that you could buy 13w spirals and throw them in that canopy, if you don't want to go out and buy an inexpensive $16 brooder dome reflector (metal). Maybe Hoppy knows what the % difference is between vertical and horizontally mounted spiral bulbs. I think he's very knowledgeable about lighting.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:03 AM   #25
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Ok so no new additions to the tank except for more clippings out of the 90g


And here is a better shot of the lighting and bulbs
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The tank looks pretty bright to me - maybe you want to look for 12 or 13w bulbs, or just 1 13w and 1 10w. I agree that the white plastic reflectors are not very efficient, but they of course do reflect some light.

Your bulbs look a lot like some Compact Fluorescent Light bulbs that I have seen, and it's possible that they are intended to be installed horizontally - I hope so, they look pretty good.

All things considered, I would leave the reflectors as they are, see how the plants do, and maybe swap one of the 10w out for a 13w and see if that works.
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:22 AM   #27
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My plants seem to be doing well... My pogo was actually frowning out of the top of the water. And all my crypts and nana petite have new leaves. I am starting to get some brown algae on my plant leaves. My plan is to add maybe 1-2 nerite snails to the tank, 1-2 Amano shrimp to the tank and 1-2 oto to the tank
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:44 AM   #28
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Ok idk how many people are really following this thread but I figured I'd give an update on the 10g. I have recently taken out all the black gravel and replaced it with one whole bag of Eco complete. It has given me a nice 2" thick substrate.


After about a week of having the eco in te tank I have added a new plant..... I bought two bunches of dwarf four leaf clover and put it in the front of te tank.... I may have to get in and spread it out a little more but wanna see how it's even going to grow in the tank.


Another thing that I've started realizing is that all my new growth on my plants seem to be turning white.... When do I need to start dosing ferts and excel??
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:18 AM   #29
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Tank looks great. If the plants are doing well than I would mess with the lighting. As far as Excel, I dose all of my tanks that don't have Vals. If you have root tabs in there I wouldn't worry about column ferts. I do 1ml a day of Metricide (excel) in my 10g
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Old 09-17-2013, 01:19 AM   #30
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New growth turning white is ussually do to an fe(iron) deficency.
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