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Old 08-17-2013, 08:17 PM   #16
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I used peat moss(no ferts or poisons) and fed mine the Quaker oats (dampened) and fish flakes. They seemed to do well. However mine crawled up the side (where I collected them,and fed to fish). I always took that as a.sign the culture was growing and attempting to expand. I kept mine at room temp.
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:29 PM   #17
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These look like the larger whiteworms.

For those raising whiteworms, what temps are you keeping them. Mine aren't multiplying like they did in the winter. I'm keeping them at 64F.
They look a lot like white worms to me also, but a bit smaller. never seen a grindal worm to compare.

My full grown white worms are about the length of the end of my thumb, maybe a bit more. my threadfins won't come close to touching a full grown one.

I have been keeping my whiteworms in a cooler with a frozen 2liter bottle of water I switch out every morning. My cultures were doing great until they crashed- low pH is my guess . Luckily I had plenty and then some to start new cultures. but I do feel (just my feeling) that in the fall/winter/spring they do better.

I just switched back from seed starter mix to compressed coconut fiber. (a bit over 7.00 at petsmart for a 3pack). I add a tsp or so of ground egg shells to the medium to help buffer.
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They look a lot like white worms to me also, but a bit smaller. never seen a grindal worm to compare.

My full grown white worms are about the length of the end of my thumb, maybe a bit more. my threadfins won't come close to touching a full grown one.

I have been keeping my whiteworms in a cooler with a frozen 2liter bottle of water I switch out every morning. My cultures were doing great until they crashed- low pH is my guess . Luckily I had plenty and then some to start new cultures. but I do feel (just my feeling) that in the fall/winter/spring they do better.

I just switched back from seed starter mix to compressed coconut fiber. (a bit over 7.00 at petsmart for a 3pack). I add a tsp or so of ground egg shells to the medium to help buffer.
My big batch crashed as well but it's slowly getting back. I think they crashed when there are too many of them. They're not as easy as grindals for sure.
I put my batches in a wine cooler/fridge at 64F. I wonder if I should bump down the temp even more to see.
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Old 08-18-2013, 12:11 AM   #19
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They look a lot like white worms to me also, but a bit smaller. never seen a grindal worm to compare.

My full grown white worms are about the length of the end of my thumb, maybe a bit more. my threadfins won't come close to touching a full grown one.

I have been keeping my whiteworms in a cooler with a frozen 2liter bottle of water I switch out every morning. My cultures were doing great until they crashed- low pH is my guess . Luckily I had plenty and then some to start new cultures. but I do feel (just my feeling) that in the fall/winter/spring they do better.

I just switched back from seed starter mix to compressed coconut fiber. (a bit over 7.00 at petsmart for a 3pack). I add a tsp or so of ground egg shells to the medium to help buffer.
My largest worms may be half a thumb at most. I wonder if that is really a grindal or not...?

Thanks for the heads up on coconut fiber as my petland has zero I will try petsmart tomorrow.

As a side note my culture is at 75 degrees and is really taken off. Wouldn't white worms need much cooler?
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My largest worms may be half a thumb at most. I wonder if that is really a grindal or not...?

Thanks for the heads up on coconut fiber as my petland has zero I will try petsmart tomorrow.

As a side note my culture is at 75 degrees and is really taken off. Wouldn't white worms need much cooler?
Grindals are tiny, maybe a centimeter at most. Maybe you do have whiteworms. Mine are that size, an inch.
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Grindals are tiny, maybe a centimeter at most. Maybe you do have whiteworms. Mine are that size, an inch.
Ahhh... So that answers that thanks

So it's a white worm culture. Now I should think about some cooler temps
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Old 08-18-2013, 02:13 AM   #22
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My largest worms may be half a thumb at most. I wonder if that is really a grindal or not...?

Thanks for the heads up on coconut fiber as my petland has zero I will try petsmart tomorrow.

As a side note my culture is at 75 degrees and is really taken off. Wouldn't white worms need much cooler?
I'll take you up on that grindal worm culture and I'll bring you some white worms, we can compare. If you don't want to start a culture just rinse and dispose of in a tank with the right size fish. culture terminated

White worms are a great size food for most fish but they are kind of a pain as far as temps go. also, it takes a good 5-6 weeks to get a decent culture really going, vs a week with microworms and a month for grindals
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Good plan on seeing what exactly I got shipped. We can meet one morning again next week

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#1 adding youtube videos to the second post

#2 every video on youtube for grindal worm, the worms look exactly the same as mine? Here is the exact culture i bought

#3 mistergreen, you want to join the club? you seem to have lots of good input

#4 anyone wanna submit a good youtube video for whiteworms? i found a few i liked but maybe you guys with the white worms should pick
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Oh, those are grindals. They just seem big because it's probably multiple worms bound together.
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Oh, those are grindals. They just seem big because it's probably multiple worms bound together.
true one of those is probably closer to 10 worms

just ordered a daphnia culture
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:36 PM   #28
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You can add me to the list. When I lived in Gainesville, I had access to live black worms and my fish LOVED them. I'm raising nano fish now and need something a little smaller.

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I mix this in my micro worm medium (mashed potatoes) and sprinkle a little on top of the microworms every couple days
I'm getting ready to start 2 cultures - microworms and vinegar eels. For the microworms, do you use the instant mashed potatoes? I've been reading about using oatmeal. Is one better than the other, or is it just personal preference?
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Cool ill add you tonight when I get on the computer

I know you can use both instant mashed potatoes and oatmeal

I am not getting the right consistency yet using potatoes and am going to try an oatmeal one

I make the potatoes and they seem to be a good consistency and then it sits over night and I add yeast and it comes out thinner then next day.

I'm still messing around
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And not to discredit the mash potatoes method, dprais1 gave me a culture in it and its banging
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