hair algae help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wildy · 01-06-2004, 01:15 PM

I have am suffering from a bad dose of hair algae, I had it about 6 weeks ago i cut down all my plants, bleached them, used algaecide,cut down on my lighting.....and now its back.....Its down to 1 of 3 things new t5 lighting
220w or gravel cleaning exposing the laterite, or high phosphate levels in my tap water....

Ok i have 150gallon tank
2x58w plant tubes
4x55w t5 tubes 2xdaylight white and 2x pink plant tubes

nitrates 0
phosphate 4
ph 7.5
ammonia 0

I tryed phosphate remover in my external, but its in the tap water so when i water change i put it back in(1/4 twice weekly)

I use a fertilzer in a bag which i put in my external(dont know if it is any good..)

I turned the pink t5's off after last algae out break,
now i am just running the 2 normal tubes, i have no co2 as i keep discus and im trying to keep a stable ph...

What can i do im very close to ripping all the plants out???????????

George Willms · 01-06-2004, 01:17 PM

explain this fertilizer in a bag thing.

wildy · 01-06-2004, 03:50 PM

http://www.aquaticplants.eu.com/Pro%20aqua%20Plant.htm

pro aqua plant food

Rex Grigg · 01-06-2004, 05:59 PM

Your post explains your problem. 0 nitrates and phosphates of 4? That's a bit out of whack. Try reading my FAQ. Your problem is a clear cut case of nutrient imbalance.

tombsc · 01-07-2004, 09:07 AM

I use the same fertilizer bags as you..When I put them in I got my first outbreak of hair algae, but this coincided with me changing a light tube to one with a high green peak, so I put it down to that. Maybe it was the fertilizer (?).
I spoke to the guy who sells them and he said you shouldn't add any other ferts while using these bags which last about 3 months.
BTW, they are really good, my H.polysperma grows about 3 inches a day, and my red plants are extremely red..this is with 1 WPG T8 lighting.

wildy · 01-07-2004, 11:55 AM

are you using co2

http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/aca...g_Systems.html

check outhe tubes i use :-
ASL T5 Compact Daylight White Tubes 2xof these

Produces an intense penetrating white light which is ideal for both Marine and Freshwater aquaria. With a colour temperature of 7100K (Kelvin) the ASL Daylight White Tube provides the optimum spectrum and output for the healthy growth of Corals, Macro Algae and Freshwater Plants

ASL T5 Compact Freshwater Plant Tubes 2x of these

Provides red and blue wavelengths encouraging photosynthesis and chlorophyll production resulting in healthy lush plant growth. Optimum results are obtained when used in conjunction with ASL Freshwater Tropical or Daylight White tubes.

can u see these being a cause of algae???????

tombsc · 01-07-2004, 12:27 PM

I inject pressurised CO2 at 16 bubbles/min. I want to get those lights...been debating it for a while now. I want the unit that fits in existing hoods rather than the overtank luminare. Don't think it will fit in my hood though

....and do I really want to build a new hood...on a bow-front ?
I think I'd go with a combo of Freshwater and Freshwater plant bulbs...leaving out the Daylights.

wildy · 01-08-2004, 12:15 PM

Mine is screwed to my hood not over tank, i drilled the holes myself..

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01-06-2004, 01:15 PM	#1
wildy Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10	I have am suffering from a bad dose of hair algae, I had it about 6 weeks ago i cut down all my plants, bleached them, used algaecide,cut down on my lighting.....and now its back.....Its down to 1 of 3 things new t5 lighting 220w or gravel cleaning exposing the laterite, or high phosphate levels in my tap water.... Ok i have 150gallon tank 2x58w plant tubes 4x55w t5 tubes 2xdaylight white and 2x pink plant tubes nitrates 0 phosphate 4 ph 7.5 ammonia 0 I tryed phosphate remover in my external, but its in the tap water so when i water change i put it back in(1/4 twice weekly) I use a fertilzer in a bag which i put in my external(dont know if it is any good..) I turned the pink t5's off after last algae out break, now i am just running the 2 normal tubes, i have no co2 as i keep discus and im trying to keep a stable ph... What can i do im very close to ripping all the plants out???????????

01-06-2004, 03:50 PM	#3
wildy Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10	http://www.aquaticplants.eu.com/Pro%20aqua%20Plant.htm pro aqua plant food

01-06-2004, 05:59 PM	#4
Rex Grigg Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (65/100%) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Portland Orygun Posts: 9,600	Your post explains your problem. 0 nitrates and phosphates of 4? That's a bit out of whack. Try reading my FAQ. Your problem is a clear cut case of nutrient imbalance.

01-07-2004, 09:07 AM	#5
tombsc Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bath, UK Posts: 159	I use the same fertilizer bags as you..When I put them in I got my first outbreak of hair algae, but this coincided with me changing a light tube to one with a high green peak, so I put it down to that. Maybe it was the fertilizer (?). I spoke to the guy who sells them and he said you shouldn't add any other ferts while using these bags which last about 3 months. BTW, they are really good, my H.polysperma grows about 3 inches a day, and my red plants are extremely red..this is with 1 WPG T8 lighting.

01-07-2004, 11:55 AM	#6
wildy Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10	are you using co2 http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/aca...g_Systems.html check outhe tubes i use :- ASL T5 Compact Daylight White Tubes 2xof these Produces an intense penetrating white light which is ideal for both Marine and Freshwater aquaria. With a colour temperature of 7100K (Kelvin) the ASL Daylight White Tube provides the optimum spectrum and output for the healthy growth of Corals, Macro Algae and Freshwater Plants ASL T5 Compact Freshwater Plant Tubes 2x of these Provides red and blue wavelengths encouraging photosynthesis and chlorophyll production resulting in healthy lush plant growth. Optimum results are obtained when used in conjunction with ASL Freshwater Tropical or Daylight White tubes. can u see these being a cause of algae???????

01-07-2004, 12:27 PM	#7
tombsc Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bath, UK Posts: 159	I inject pressurised CO2 at 16 bubbles/min. I want to get those lights...been debating it for a while now. I want the unit that fits in existing hoods rather than the overtank luminare. Don't think it will fit in my hood though ....and do I really want to build a new hood...on a bow-front ? I think I'd go with a combo of Freshwater and Freshwater plant bulbs...leaving out the Daylights.

01-08-2004, 12:15 PM	#8
wildy Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 10	Mine is screwed to my hood not over tank, i drilled the holes myself..