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Old 12-10-2006, 11:54 PM   #1
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ringram's 90g -- Updated 3/6/09!


Here is a picture of my current 90g Oceanic fish-only tank that I'll be tearing down and converting to a planted tank. I've never done a journal before, so I figured now would be as good a time as any.



I'll still be using the Eheim 2026 filter and probably nothing else for the time-being, unless it's needed.


I'll also be using the hydor 300W inline heater that has performed flawlessly since the tank was setup in April 2006.


I've been doing ALL KINDS of reading, asking questions and thinking out the entire process. Thanks Momotaro for your wonderful thread on the 37g tank you did -- I sort of "borrowed" a few ideas as you'll later see.
The biggest thing I tried to keep telling myself is that planning and thinking it all through prevents problems down the road. More to come!

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Old 12-11-2006, 12:06 AM   #2
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Ok, I first thought about the outlet that this will be plugged into. I wanted to install a GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) outlet, in the event of a leakage, etc. I already installed these in our kitchen, two bathrooms and outside, so it's nothing new to me. I went out shopping yesterday:


Then I thought about the powerstrip (NOT surge protector) that is currently being used on this tank. That has to go. Plus, all this equipment deserves protection in the event of an electrical surge. It's simply the right way to do it. I bought these for about $7/ea at Home Depot.


I also bought some conduit brackets (thanks Momotaro!), which will be mounted to the back of the stand to keep the filter hoses in place and neat.


This next item is Professional grade multicable staple. I'll be nailing this to certain areas inside the stand and using it to hold wires in place.


Along with those previous two items, I also picked up some double-sided adhesive and zip ties as you can never have enough of this stuff. Both will be used to assist in mounting items and keeping wiring out of the way.

That's all for now. I'm currently considering the purchase of a powerhead (Rio 600?) to assist in circulation, as well as making the final decision on lighting Orbit (4 x 65w , 2 moonlights) or ahsupply (4 x 55w or 6 x 55w). I'd like MH, but its a bit out of the price range right now. I may look on local ads to see if someone's getting rid of one. It would have to be pretty nice though, as this has to pass the "wife test" as well!
I'm also going to the SFBAAPS meet next weekend in Albany...my first one, actually. Afterwards, I'm going to see if I have enough time to go to Aqua Forest as I'm looking to get some wood or rocks as well as 4 x 9L aquasoil and 2 x 2L powersand-S.
More to come!
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Old 12-11-2006, 12:10 AM   #3
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Go with a Tek 4x54w setup. =P T5 bulbs are cheaper to swap out, anyways. A tad more efficient than PC bulbs too. Cost might be a factor though.

I'm back in Sacramento next weekend too, maybe I'll see you at the sfbaaps meet! Not sure how I'll get there though,
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:13 AM   #4
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I'm considering it. But, of course, price is an issue too. That's what's keeping me from going all-out on MH. I'm also not sure I want a hood either. I've seen some people's tanks without one and it looks nice and sure would make it easier for routine maintenance. That's why I'm considering the Orbit. For $252 on bigal's I can get a 4x65w w/ fan and 2 moonlights, plus 2 tee-shirts and a keychain or something...It's pretty much everything in one. Yes, I agree with the PCs being a little less efficient than T-5's, but I know it would work out just fine. I have PC's on my 20g and it grows *most* plants very well. Another things I might mention is ....this is NEW grounds for me! The largest planted tank I've done up until now is my current 20H. The 90g will use pretty much the same equipment, but on a larger scale. I have a 9w turbo twist that will be incorporated, as well as full pressurized Co2 w/ JBJ regulator, needle valve, bubble counter and a 10lb Co2 tank. I also have a
Co2 reactor that I *could* use, but I lke the idea of trying a Rhinox 5000 for the fine mist bubbles. I'll probably update again after next weekend, when I'll hopefully be making a trek to AF!
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Old 12-11-2006, 12:54 PM   #5
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Looks like you are off to a good start. Looking forward to seeing your progress on the 90 gallon. My next tank I plan to get a 90 as well, so this will just be inspiration.

BTW...What are you going to do with your huge Silver Dollars? I believe they are plant munchers.
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:59 PM   #6
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NONE of the current fish will stay in there. I'll be trading them all into the LFS for credit. I'll probably get pretty good credit as they're all good sized and healthy...Firemouth, Geophagus Balzami, Green Severum, 2 x "blue eye" cichlid, 3 x yoyo loach, chocolate pl*co, senegal bichir, 6 x silver dollar, Leoprinimus Fasciatus, Flying Fox, huge feeder goldfish.
I have 6 rummynose tetras in my 20g and a couple ottos. I figure either one very large school or a couple of smaller (20-25) schools will be good in the end.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:33 PM   #7
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looks good so far! the effort you put into the hardware and keeping everything neat and clean really pays off down the road.

What are you planning to use for a substrate? Hardscape?
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:31 PM   #8
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Substrate will be 4-9L bags of ADA aquasoil "Amazonia" with 2-2L bags of Powersand-S as a base.
Hardscape? Not really sure yet. It all depends on what I decide on by my own thoughts and formulations in my head and when I actually go to Aqua Forest and see their selection of rock and wood.
A few attractive, strategically placed rocks would look great in a tank with a nice foreground and groupings of stem plants in the mid/background, or a few nice pieces of wood may look good if placed correctly and attached with java fern, moss, etc. I'm not really sure at this point. I'll have to keep you in suspense!
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:59 AM   #9
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Get the 4x Tek light and suspend it with the cable hanger. The best part is moving the lamp up and out of the way when needed, besides looking bad ass. I did go ahead and suspend mine from the living room ceiling. To me it looks cleaner than having a frame suspending the light over the tank.

All depends on your needs there are endless options.
These guys have a good selection and looks like they are providing GE bulbs right now for the 6500K range. Specialty Lighting at Specialty-Lights: Professional Lighting, Facilities Lighting, Specialty Light, Unique Lighting Systems
I picked up mine a couple of years ago from them, good folks.

What kept me from going PC was every fixture used fans to keep cool. Fans = Noise. However little it's still white noise I can do without.

Aside from the Tek going through it's heat cycle it's silent.
Sounds like a set of headers cooling down after some hard running.

What ever you do go topless.

Looking back on that tank you may want to look at HQI since you are on the tall side of things. There are fixtures that have two T5 and two HQI in them. Problem is once you go that route it's big money as your probably aware.

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Old 12-22-2006, 05:26 PM   #10
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Well, are you happy with the 2 x 54w on your 55g? My 90g is only 8"(I think) taller @ 24". Anyway, I have a thread in the lighting section as I'm going to be getting T-5 Teks, but I'm just trying to decide whether to get the retrofit and build or buy a canopy to put it in, or buy the fixture and cable ties to hand it from the ceiling...http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/li...questions.html
I like the second idea best, but not sure how strong it would be, etc. as our ceiling is basically textured sheetrock w/ that "popcorn" crap. I'll need to find a stud I guess. I had a real joy of a time doing that when I installed our garage door opener (sarcasm).

Sunday, I went to Aqua Forest after the SBAAPS meet (first time for both) and I was impressed. Immediately upon walking in, I was floored with the nice tank set ups and the variety of plant and fish species(moreso the plants). I stuck to what I was there to buy --- Aquasoil, powersand and hardscape material(wood or rock).
I ended up getting five 9L bags of ADA Aquasoil "Amazonia", one 2L bag of Powersand - S and four pretty nice pieces of ADA 'old black wood'...would have bought another piece or two, but its pricey stuff. Well worth it though, as it doesn't need to be boiled and it looks real nice. The guys at AquaForest were top notch in their treating of customers They got a dolly and carted everything out to the car. I didn't have to carry anything. They also threw in an ADA calendar and the ADA catalog ($22 total value). I was pleased.

What's next?
Next week I'm off work and will be draining the 90g, taking all the fish to the LFS for trade-in(bichir, silver dollars, firemouth, severum, etc) and working on the electrical and mechanical workings of this new set up. I'll get the hardscape layed out and maybe, if the lights come in, I'll get it planted...or at least ready. Here are some pics of the goodies from AF:



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Old 12-24-2006, 04:02 AM   #11
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I was up there yesterday to purchase some aquasoil, they gave me the catalog and calender aswell =] Nice people there!
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Well Ryan your one up on me. I have not made a meeting yet. AF rules. Even tops Albany IMO but I had several kids and my wife in tow when we visited.

Glad to see you chose a six bulb unit. You could have gone with a four and regret is (like I) for not going big in the first place. I still pine for a four bulb unit over my 55 for some more flexibility.

Keep up the good work.
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Old 12-29-2006, 01:59 AM   #13
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Well folks, things are progressing...slowly, but indeed they are
I trust everyone's Christmas was nice...or Hanukkah ,etc (sorry if misspelling)

First off, the Tek lights came in today (6 x 54w T-5)....It looks so nice! Plus, I bought it off an Ebay store for $45 cheaper than the retail site. My wife even gawked at the fixture and seems pleased. The two 54w 10,000k bulbs came in from DRs F&S today. I'm still waiting on four 54w 6500k bulbs that should come in a day or two. I also ordered some doo-hickeys from BigAl's (dechlorinator, extra filter tubes, ball valves for controlling water flow) and a Rhinox 5000 with 8 ft of clippard Co2 tubing.

Yesterday, I made a trip to Lowe's and bought two 10 ft 1/2" conduit bars for the lighting contraption....They barely fit in my car! Well, to be exact,, I had to hang it about a foot out of the passenger's side window. LOL. Good thing it wasn't too far from my house. I also picked up assorted screws, couplings and three grounded outdoor light timers that were on clearance for $2.50/ea (reg. $10). They are covered and can have up to like 24 programs at once.

I drained the 90g yesterday as well and took the fish to the LFS for....get this - $160 store credit! Yeah, I was surprised too. That should cover most or all of the fish I'll be getting once this is up-and-running. My wife was browsing around the store with me and said that she'd like me to get Angelfish. I actually think that they may be a good choice, but we'll see. I also wanted to get two or three schools of smaller fish, so I'll need to be sure that they won't get eaten...Anyway, the tank is EMPTY. I scooped all sand and crushed coral out and the Eheim 2026 is dismantled for a good cleaning. I have a lot of work ahead of me and will be doing as much as I can. I'll try to get some pictures posted for those who care to follow along.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:50 AM   #14
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Here's a picture of the tank as it sits now. The driftwood is just in there 'cause I was messing around with arrangements. It will obviously be coming out when the substrate goes in. Heck, I still need to clean the inside of the glass as well. There's some brown algae that will need to be wiped off.



Here's what it looks like under the stand. Ahhhh the possibilities!


check out this outdoor, covered timer I picked up on a xmas clearance shelf at Lowe's for $2.50/ea. I had to buy 3.


Here's the Tek-light (6x54w T-5 HO) fixture that arrived today. Now, I just need to get this conduit bar-contraption hooked up.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:52 AM   #15
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i'm anticipating what it all will look like! keep us posted!
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